Weatherby drops stainless?

bought a staniless lam vanguard in 22 250 last year think it was just under 800
dident think that price was bad
as far as the glare ,deer stair at me all the time from 10 yards away (up in atree stand)I wear glasses and all my guns are stainless if they dont smell you and you dont move they will never spook you move even a toe and there gone
 
weatherby drops stainless

I think the problem with the weatherby stainless rifles are that they would rust very quickly if not taken care of.I bought a weatherby mark5 stainless when they first came out and if I didn't oil it after every hunt it would start to rust.I talked to the dealer about it and he said it was a common problem with the weatherby stainless rifles.I have owned lots of stainless rifles and the weatherby was the worst for rusting,weatherby probably had a lot of complaints over it.Another stainless gun I found that rust quickly are the tikka stainless rifles.I think the weatherby stainless has to much carbin in it which makes it easier to machine but it rusts quicker.
 
2) Blued steel can be coated to be weather resistant

Please tell me how you coat the inside of the barrel - where its most important.

3) Many top notch makers do not offer stainless, even in 'extreme weather' models, especially Euro rifles. Blaser, Steyr, Mauser, Sauer etc don't offer stainless but do offer rifles designed for inclement conditions and many of those rifles do get used in harsh conditions.

First off Steyr does offer stainless rifles. Secondly you cant really compare the european stuff to ours. They have different ideas on hunting rifles - most based on tradition. Hunting is an elitest sport in most of europe. See many highly engraved drillings being made here?
 
Please tell me how you coat the inside of the barrel - where its most important.



First off Steyr does offer stainless rifles. Secondly you cant really compare the european stuff to ours. They have different ideas on hunting rifles - most based on tradition. Hunting is an elitest sport in most of europe. See many highly engraved drillings being made here?

I stand corrected then, I wasn't aware that Steyr made stainless hunting rifles.
I agree on your point about different hunting styles but they still hunt in inclement weather and those makers still offer all weather rifles that appear to do OK.

Do the ceramic type bore coatings available not offer rust prevention?

Don't get me wrong, I am not knocking stainless rifles as inferior, it just seems that most of the 'non-operator' serious issues and failures have been stainless rifles. There was thread some time ago on accuratereloading where a german fellow compiled some info on issues with brittle stainless barrels.

All I was asking is that if stainless still needs maintenance has it not been 'oversold' to shooters as the 'only choice' for severe weather rifles when there are plenty of blued rifles that hunt rough, wet terrain the world over?
 
Carry your rifle in a waterproof case at all times. Problem solved. If it is raining pass on the shot and wait for a sunny day. Never hunt in the snow. Do not carry rifle against your sweaty clothing.

See. Its easy to prevent rust.
 
Instead of arguing about the merits of stainless vs blued rifles, and each other's use of the English language, you should all be seeking out Howa's at your favourite gun shop and buying them - in both stainless and blued. If you cannot find them at your favourite gun shop, find another favourite gun shop or harass your favourite gun shop until they order some in. Howa rifles are underated and generally over-performing rifles with a lower price tag than most Weatherby products.:)
 
I see the Vanguard 'Backcounty' is no longer

That's the only one I'm upset about. I love the Vanguards, they're outstanding, but I always saw them as a value rifle, so I only ever bothered with the base model synthetic.

But I totally fell for a Backcountry in .30-06. Thankfully (?) it was too expensive at the time.
 
Carry your rifle in a waterproof case at all times. Problem solved. If it is raining pass on the shot and wait for a sunny day. Never hunt in the snow. Do not carry rifle against your sweaty clothing.

See. Its easy to prevent rust.

LOL, now I know you are being sarcastic as here in BC that would mean staying home all hunting season. :D
 
I am not bashing stainless at all but I have noticed a few things over the years:

1) It appears most recalls, defects and catastrophic failures like barrels splitting etc are on stainless rifles.

2) Blued steel can be coated to be weather resistant

3) Many top notch makers do not offer stainless, even in 'extreme weather' models, especially Euro rifles. Blaser, Steyr, Mauser, Sauer etc don't offer stainless but do offer rifles designed for inclement conditions and many of those rifles do get used in harsh conditions.

While you can't deny the usefulness of stainless do you think its necessity for harsh weather and ease of maintenance has been over sold?

Stainless is not suited for pressures over extended periods of time. While this may sound like a sweeping generalization it is safe to say most stainless is not ductile enough for extended round count. I bet in a few years cheaper stainless rifles will be a thing of the past due to this. I work as an aircraft mechanic and see stainless cracked all the time.
 
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