I thought clays were made outa clay...

I shoot clays by a large lake. I've picked the intact ones out of the shallow water months after and reused them.
I have no idea what they're made of, but they most certainly don't dissolve.

I agree..one of the ponds in an area where we hunt is a favourite spot for "clay shooters"..Have been trouting in it several times over the past couple years..and no lie, I've caught parts of clays, as well as pulling in whole, as new clay disks. (using spoons/spinners) Don't trout there anymore..I'm figuring due to the amount of shells on the grounds/lead in the water, and number of times I've hooked disks, I would prefer not to eat anything out of that pond. Just to be on the safe side.
 
This thread is just providing anti gun crowds more ammo in there fight to ban guns and gun related products.
 
"Clay Targets" ... may well have once been made of clay, but as reported, are now (ands have for my lifetime at least... and that's too many years) consist of pitch & limestone.

In my mispent youth and throughout my middle age ( assuming a lifespan of about 125 years ;) ) ... I've had the occassion to hang around too many gun clubs, including my local one ... and yes they use Lawry Targets alsmost exclusively.

I've been at Clubs, including my own, on and off ( but of course not continuously) on virtually every day of the week, and at every season, sometimes three and four days a week, during all daylight hours, sometimes, dusk to dawn, and often arriving prior to anyone else on site. I have yet to notice... over the past 35 years at least... no profusion of dead and dying wildlife, bird, mammal or amphibian species, or any other critters lying around dead or sick from having ingested pieces of clay targets on the shooting fields.

Where the broken pieces tend to fall, and they do get deposited to a surprising depth over time, particularly at the trap & skeet ranges, grass does not grow well, but neither would it grow well if it were covered up in a blanket of gravel, whether limestone or granite. The black shards are somewhat unsightly, but less so than the bright orange painted parts, which do fade over time and exposure to the elements. More unsightly are the profusion of plastic wads in many shades of colour, which do not seem to degenerate whatsoever.

One acquaintance, a rather wealthy chap at that, has his own Sporting Clay range on
his estate of a couple of hundred acres. He insists on "all black" targets only and on
supplying to his shooting guests, a Kent / Gamebore load with a fibre wad. In having shot there over the past 15 years ... no unsightly build-up of clays, wads lying about and no profusion of dead wildlife either.

Probably far less of a problem than the pesticides and herbacides commonly used for agricultural purposes.
 
Where the broken pieces tend to fall, and they do get deposited to a surprising depth over time, particularly at the trap & skeet ranges, grass does not grow well, but neither would it grow well if it were covered up in a blanket of gravel, whether limestone or granite. The black shards are somewhat unsightly, but less so than the bright orange painted parts, which do fade over time and exposure to the elements. More unsightly are the profusion of plastic wads in many shades of colour, which do not seem to degenerate whatsoever.

Many good points here. It really doesn't matter what you pile densely over top of vegetation; doing so will kill what ever is under it and make it problematic for any vegetation to grow. The plastic will degenerate over time....... where time is approaching a few hundred years....


Just as a point of interest about vegetation and clay targets (Lawry). Due to the wisdom of our landlord, we must gather up the broken targets at my club, and move them into big piles (don't get me started). All of the big piles of clays (and a mixture of crappy soil that inevitably get's mixed in) end up growing grass (weeds) on them.
 
Many good points here. It really doesn't matter what you pile densely over top of vegetation; doing so will kill what ever is under it and make it problematic for any vegetation to grow. The plastic will degenerate over time....... where time is approaching a few hundred years....


Just as a point of interest about vegetation and clay targets (Lawry). Due to the wisdom of our landlord, we must gather up the broken targets at my club, and move them into big piles (don't get me started). All of the big piles of clays (and a mixture of crappy soil that inevitably get's mixed in) end up growing grass (weeds) on them.

Not wanting to get you started, but I guess the big piles make it easier to load them and take things to the landfill. What's the best way of picking them up? Have you guys found a good one? I know our club tried a power mower once but didn't like how the blade sounded when the bigger pieces hit it. So, it's lots of bodies with rakes for us.
 
...So, it's lots of bodies with rakes for us.

Ahh yes, garden rakes, shovels & wheelbarrows ... more than one blister raised through the years on "clean-up day".

Much like when the truckload of targets arrive ... you can tell who are the active, valuable members of the club. The other type rarely (or never) shows up for those days. ;)
 
Not wanting to get you started, but I guess the big piles make it easier to load them and take things to the landfill. What's the best way of picking them up? Have you guys found a good one? I know our club tried a power mower once but didn't like how the blade sounded when the bigger pieces hit it. So, it's lots of bodies with rakes for us.

Ideally every club would have volunteers with hand tools to clean up........:D

We've used a commercial vacuum (like of the street sweeper size) which works well... better if you have rows or piles already made. If you don't have a member with access to one of these however, costs would likely be prohibitive.

A power mower that you could sacrifice to the clay target gods would probably do well in 'mulching' the targets.

If you had a soft infield you could get a power tiller.

We've tried different power tools with varying success... it always seems to come back to manual labour though.
 
I say we go back to the environmentally friendly 100 % biodegradable live pigeons.

This is way off topic and I'm sorry about that, but I couldn't resist. We had two 'roof rats' in our barn up until yesterday. You could have had those, but you would have been in competition with the hawks. Anyone who hasn't seen a redtail hawk take a pigeon on the fly is in for a treat some day. One of them got one about twenty feet over my head. My apologies to the creator of this thread...Fred
 
There are a couple of methods of "launching" live pigeons. The first is a box that collapses when a rope is pulled. The use of the world "pull" in clay target sports is a carry over from live pigeon shooting. These are also known as "box birds."

The second is columbaire where the pigeon is physically thrown into the air.

They are very tough and demanding shotgun sports. In Spain they are huge money events with many thousands won and lost. Live pigeon shooting also occurs in Pennsylvania but it's not discussed widely.

And in 1900 live pigeon shooting was an Olympic event. The first and only time.
 
This is way off topic and I'm sorry about that, but I couldn't resist. We had two 'roof rats' in our barn up until yesterday. You could have had those, but you would have been in competition with the hawks. Anyone who hasn't seen a redtail hawk take a pigeon on the fly is in for a treat some day. One of them got one about twenty feet over my head. My apologies to the creator of this thread...Fred

All the years that I kept homing pigeons the local Redtails were well fed, but I never seen a Redtail take a bird out of the air. Seen them try but most birds were young ones taken on the ground. Prairie falcons on the other hand were able to put a top gun dog fight move on them and just fly them down.
 
Ideally every club would have volunteers with hand tools to clean up........:D

We've used a commercial vacuum (like of the street sweeper size) which works well... better if you have rows or piles already made. If you don't have a member with access to one of these however, costs would likely be prohibitive.

A power mower that you could sacrifice to the clay target gods would probably do well in 'mulching' the targets.

If you had a soft infield you could get a power tiller.

We've tried different power tools with varying success... it always seems to come back to manual labour though.



A "Gravely" Sweeper does a great job of picking up target pieces as well as wads!
 
or any other critters lying around dead or sick from having ingested pieces of clay targets on th

FYI I mistook the "bio" on the box as being "safe" for animals and had two springers chasing clays and broken clays during an afternoon of trap...

two VERY sick dogs that evening and the next day, the sickness went away whne the puke stopped....
 
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