DIY M14 stock

[TAC PRO]

I have embarked on a journey of a thousand steps....or is it just twelve steps...

My first attempt at building a rifle stock has begun with the test fitting of the inletting file.

The stock will be made from laminated wood and will be in the style of the Dragunov/PK. I will be experimenting with the addition of bedding pillars or other types of metal/glass/fibre inserts to prevent compression of the wood. Will update as work progresses.

These are pics of the inletting test.

 

[MagnumPeanut]

I love these threads.

In for project.

 

[300Spartans]

This will be interesting. I've often wondered why a Dragunov-style stock has never been marketed for the M-14/1A.

 

[chemo]

hey, also doing a stock now, not like you but chopping a current fiberglass one to fit a badboybeeson ar-15 furniture adaptor for rem870.

I tried it on the norinco wood stock and fit was excellent, just minor fitting with dremel. Only problem with norinco wood stock is softness of the wood for these machine screws. My testing in fiberglass as been much more positive and once chopping is done I will fill everything with cold weld. Just awaiting my ar-15 furniture from fabsports... he's been waiting on the buffer tube for 3 weeks now...........

 

[lone-wolf]

hey, also doing a stock now, not like you but chopping a current fiberglass one to fit a badboybeeson ar-15 furniture adaptor for rem870.

I tried it on the norinco wood stock and fit was excellent, just minor fitting with dremel. Only problem with norinco wood stock is softness of the wood for these machine screws. My testing in fiberglass as been much more positive and once chopping is done I will fill everything with cold weld. Just awaiting my ar-15 furniture from fabsports... he's been waiting on the buffer tube for 3 weeks now...........

I was thinking about a way to do that today. Seems like you have it.
Trigger finger comfortable?

 

[chemo]

i was wondering if someone would adress that...
I admit that this is my redneck prototype, but don't be fooled, with a pistol grip you have to leave a gap, this one seems very big but it is comfortable.
For the USGI stock I plan on removing maybe ½'' to this gap though. But no gap= no good, the trigger would be too close.
I took the hint from another folder project shown here, the user had cut too much and had to add a spacer, better safe than sorry

Note, if you decide to go with the S&B hardware kit, for which the price is right, you will have to switch the adaptor screw for a longer one. I'm also debating the use of a second screw that would come in the buffer tube hole for more stability, problem is that the screws would be in an axis that is problematic. They wouldn't touch provided you use the right lenght, but I'm concerned about the rigidity of the material between the screws to anchor the adaptor...

Here is the subject matter, I remember it because I offered to host the pics for him. Also, the reason I went with the S&J Hardware unit is explicit right here, cheek weld is way too low with regular 870 adaptors. Another option to consider would be the mesa tactical High tube adaptor, but when looking for a dealer for those, Simon at S&J quoted me for one of their CQBMKIII without the rail:

send me the pictures, I'm a picture hosting maniac.


EDIT: HERE ARE THE PICTURES.
note from the author: initial camo paint not by him, he despised it









Note: pistol grip was too close to the trigger, spacer installed, problem fixed, something to consider


Epoxied in place with Goop Marine Fix Fast as per 45 ACP Kings suggestion

Thanks Charles for making my work load easier.Any questions guys ask away. To actually fasten the stock I used the bolt that came with the pistol grip stock after inletting the fibreglass stock for the ATI grip.I then used a couple of wood screw to keep the grip from attempting to try and turn.

 

[ton45-II]

Interesting.

 

[M14Doctor]

when i first embarked on my quest to make what is now known as the m14s-cqb .... first i tried a S&J hardware grip adapter just like charles is doing. As you all know I passed on the idea pretty fast for the same reasons being mentioned above.
then i looked at all the shotgun adaptors and again..... not what i was after.
I did not want a finished product that was simply a cut off stock relying on a main bolt and a bunch of epoxy...

now I have to ask myself...... do I reveal the secret of the M14S-CQB?? after all i charge good money for those hehehehe

so here's how it's done
you need a genuine AR 15 receiver half.... the rear portion, cut off at the trigger.
then cut horizontally in the mill to remove the grip bae from the buffer tube thread and body, the we mill 1/2 inch out and reattach the grip base to the body with buffer tube thread. this is jigged then tig welded back together to make a one piece solid adaptor.

then i cut the usgi stock much further back then shown above and hollow it out. the top and sides of the gi stock remain, the bottom is open.
the adaptor is then imbedded into the stock, not screwed and glued.
I'm stopping right there as the rest will remain secret LOL.
my new manufacture stocks feature a once piece proprietory, machined mount that is part of the stock from the first stage of the process instead of being added in after via imbedding. For those of you who think my usgi stock mod "fee" is too high at 495.00 , remember this, 50.00 for the epoxies i use, per stock, the cost of the usgi stock at 129.00, the 12 inch rail at retail 28.50, and about 20 hours on average per stock to have a blemish free finished product... does not include paint, clear coat, sand paper, machine screws..... and oh i forgot 65.00 my cost for the adaptor and no..... these are not sold seperatley. 495.00 for a usgi stock mod from me is not such a bad deal hehehe
Once my new adaptors are done and i have the new stock production running smoothly, I may offer usgi stock mods for customers supplying thier own stocks again soon but for right now my plate is full.

have fun with the projects guys, after all, it's all about havin fun

 

[Hungry]

M14Doctor:

And that's what it's all about... having fun! Thanks for the right perspective. May I add to that?

Using the words of Ms. Frizzell (sp?) from the Magic Schoolbus (I am a school teacher after all), "Make mistakes, discover!"

That's how I got to become so good with the M14 platform! I built quite a few stocks, had fun and then gave them away, then tried AGAIN!

yuk yuk yuk... It's all good!



Barney

 

[M14Doctor]

M14Doctor:

And that's what it's all about... having fun! Thanks for the right perspective. May I add to that?

Using the words of Ms. Frizzell (sp?) from the Magic Schoolbus (I am a school teacher after all), "Make mistakes, discover!"

That's how I got to become so good with the M14 platform! I built quite a few stocks, had fun and then gave them away, then tried AGAIN!

yuk yuk yuk... It's all good!



Barney

LOL... so true,,,, you know after several years of making all these stocks..... i still don't have one i've kept for myself.... there's always someone saying.... sell that one to me... you can make another one for yourself any time hehehehe
the first m14 stock i modified was pretty horrible... it was a chu wood stock and my god did it NOT go over well with the cgn crowd hehehe i got a few of these as replies when i posted the pic
her it is to show you all how bad it can be LOL

pretty horrible huh ... wasn't worth giving away even.... LOL
although it was real comfortable to shoot

 

[chemo]

when i first embarked on my quest to make what is now known as the m14s-cqb .... first i tried a S&J hardware grip adapter just like charles is doing. As you all know I passed on the idea pretty fast for the same reasons being mentioned above.
then i looked at all the shotgun adaptors and again..... not what i was after.
I did not want a finished product that was simply a cut off stock relying on a main bolt and a bunch of epoxy...

now I have to ask myself...... do I reveal the secret of the M14S-CQB?? after all i charge good money for those hehehehe

so here's how it's done
you need a genuine AR 15 receiver half.... the rear portion, cut off at the trigger.
then cut horizontally in the mill to remove the grip bae from the buffer tube thread and body, the we mill 1/2 inch out and reattach the grip base to the body with buffer tube thread. this is jigged then tig welded back together to make a one piece solid adaptor.

then i cut the usgi stock much further back then shown above and hollow it out. the top and sides of the gi stock remain, the bottom is open.
the adaptor is then imbedded into the stock, not screwed and glued.
I'm stopping right there as the rest will remain secret LOL.
my new manufacture stocks feature a once piece proprietory, machined mount that is part of the stock from the first stage of the process instead of being added in after via imbedding. For those of you who think my usgi stock mod "fee" is too high at 495.00 , remember this, 50.00 for the epoxies i use, per stock, the cost of the usgi stock at 129.00, the 12 inch rail at retail 28.50, and about 20 hours on average per stock to have a blemish free finished product... does not include paint, clear coat, sand paper, machine screws..... and oh i forgot 65.00 my cost for the adaptor and no..... these are not sold seperatley. 495.00 for a usgi stock mod from me is not such a bad deal hehehe
Once my new adaptors are done and i have the new stock production running smoothly, I may offer usgi stock mods for customers supplying thier own stocks again soon but for right now my plate is full.

have fun with the projects guys, after all, it's all about havin fun

I get your point and would add to that that you're a business man offering quality products, your finished CQB stock looks much more adaquate than mine will ever, mainly because I will leave the adaptor area untouched, much like the vltor stock.

But as you point out, the whole point is having fun. Since my gun isnt safe to shoot anymore, might aswell turn it into a fun project. I had this one preparing for at least a year now, turns out it only took 20 min to cut...

 

[TAC PRO]

Virtual mock up

 

[I <3 M14]

Prettty sweet...can't wait to see it when it's done.