Its not a matter of finding the surplus, its a matter of getting it approved for import by NRCAN. It does not matter if its from the US or from China, if its not approved, its not coming in.
7.62 Surplus, in Limbo?
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Its not a matter of finding the surplus, its a matter of getting it approved for import by NRCAN. It does not matter if its from the US or from China, if its not approved, its not coming in.
Sure you don't mean 7.62x39, SKS ammo? I know Lever has tons of that.
It's not a problem of NRCAN "letting" it in, but of a supplier BRINGING it in, jumping through the hoops, at a a PRICE that we will pay, and that they will make a profit.
That's the problem with surplus. The supplier has to buy it all FIRST, and then HOPE that he can get it approved. In the mean time the supplier has to sit on all that ammo OFFSHORE for maybe 2 years.
No, actually NRCAN has made it virtually impossible to get surplus ammo accepted. They are now requiring engineering drawings, propellant and primer compound composition, and other technical production info. If the manufacturer is no longer around the data is not available. If the manufacturer is still in business they may consider the information proprietary.
If the info can be obtained, then the dealers need to consider sitting on the ammo while it is approved, a process that can take more than a year.
It has to the x39mm, because the last time I went there (a few weeks ago) there were boxes of the stuff, and I didn't see any x51mm boxes.
Yes, I am well aware of these requirements, (the forms are posted on the NRCAN website) and as you mention, getting the manufacturer's info can be an impossible stumbling block for older ammo. However the importer will still (almost always) have to purchace the surplus before they apply for the approval since surplus is generally sold in batches by governments, otherwise someone else will buy it.
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Chinese ships pull into Prince Rupert on a steady basis. I sincerely doubt the port authorities there would turn it away or refuse to unload it. They have a world class port facility there that is idle far more than necessary. They are fully capable of loading and unloading all types of vessels.
There is also a rail line from PR directly east, then south. Shipping costs, especially at the price of the ammunition would be negligible.
I realise the port facilities at Prince Rupert are off the beaten track and therefore forgotten about but surely the importers in this country are well enough informed to know about it and use it, if it's cheaper.
Can Am, maybe you can shed some light on this.
Everyone likes to make a profit. If the price on a case of 7.62x51 or 7.62x54 were around $350 - $400/1120 it would be like opening up the flood gates.
Surely, there has to be some other issue than the US and Vancouver port rules?
There is also a rail line from PR directly east, then south. Shipping costs, especially at the price of the ammunition would be negligible.
I realise the port facilities at Prince Rupert are off the beaten track and therefore forgotten about but surely the importers in this country are well enough informed to know about it and use it, if it's cheaper.
Can Am, maybe you can shed some light on this.
Everyone likes to make a profit. If the price on a case of 7.62x51 or 7.62x54 were around $350 - $400/1120 it would be like opening up the flood gates.
Surely, there has to be some other issue than the US and Vancouver port rules?
This issue makes me so F$%E*^% angry!!!!!
WHO and WHERE is the hold up?!
Just point at them!
in all seriousness though, we need a detailed account of which people and what offices are standing in the way here.
What mysterious force is allowing .223 and 7.62x39 in but not 7.62NATO?!!
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?!!!!
Thanks!
http://www.nrcan-rncan.gc.ca/mms-smm/expl-expl/con-per-eng.htmThis issue makes me so F$%E*^% angry!!!!!
WHO and WHERE is the hold up?!
Just point at them!
in all seriousness though, we need a detailed account of which people and what offices are standing in the way here.
What mysterious force is allowing .223 and 7.62x39 in but not 7.62NATO?!!
WHAT IS GOING ON HERE?!!!!
Thanks!
Hmm, not that i expect it will do any good, If i were to go and sit down with my MP about this, are there any particularly egregious examples of their policies i might bring up...
From what i understand the ERD is going way beyond what was intended by the explosives act, policy wise, to the extent that one could accuse them of intentionally limiting the ammunition supply... but i haven't dealt with them directly.
Any thoughts on this you might have would be helpful to me in formulating a discussion strategy.
Thank you!
Because they did not pay the new fees.
