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so i was watching "the good the bad and the ugly" again and there is that part where tuco makes one super pistol out of many lesser pistols. now i'm wondering if this is possible? my first answer to myself is no. i'm just wondering if anyone else has thought about the plausability of this.

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nate123 said:
so i was watching "the good the bad and the ugly" again and there is that part where tuco makes one super pistol out of many lesser pistols. now i'm wondering if this is possible? my first answer to myself is no. i'm just wondering if anyone else has thought about the plausability of this.

nate
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He simply interchanged parts till he was happy with the "feel" condition of the parts and sound it made (4 colt clicks;)) Probably wasn't that uncommon to swap cylinders barrels and such for better fitting ones, condition wise etc.

Colt Navies were pretty generous with tolerences...at least mine were, the parts easily interchanged with one another;)
 
As its already been stated, Tuco merely assembled the best parts of three pistols. I guess he wasn't fortunate enough to find one in new condition like this:

 
oh ok i thought he had taken parts from different make/model of pistol. because the store clerk put several diferent make/model on the counter. i should have stated in my op that i'm not a handgun guy. so in the end what make/model pistol does he end up with? also i take it from other statements here that the pistols are not corect for the period that the film is set in?

thanks for helping me learn

nate
 
Yep, any of the open top versions shown on this page;

http://www.uberti.com/firearms/army_navy_conversion_and_open_top.php

It has to be one of the open top versions since the Remington New Army conversion does not allow the barrel to come off. And Tuco clearly pushed out the wedges to allow swapping of the cylinder and barrel. As I recall he even looks down it to check the rifling.

And since the movie takes place in some non descript time there's no reason to think that the conversions are not valid for that time. I gather from my reading that the early cartridge 1873's and conversions existed alongside the cap and ball guns for quite a while. Not everyone had the means to buy a new fangled cartridge gun and the fancy and pricey cartridges when they first came out. Cap and ball existed side by side with the cartridge guns for at least a couple of decades for just this reason.
 
Is that the same revolver Clint used on Marshal Blackburn (I think that was his name) and his deputys in High Plains Drifter? And what model is it?
 
I looked at this thread totally expecting some wiseguy to be like,"Sure it can definitely be done. Just take a Glock barrel and put it in a Glock slide and attach it to a Glock frame and you have the perfect gun." hehe
 
BCRider said:
Yep, any of the open top versions shown on this page;
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Sort of. The Colts used in the film don't really match any mass produced conversions like the Richards Mason models that Uberti makes. They don't use a Colt-style conversion ring, and they retain the percussion loading levers to keep their 1860's appearance. Uberti does produce a "Man with no name" model that's sold exclusively through Cimarron, but good luck getting one.
 
1851 Navy said:
Sort of. The Colts used in the film don't really match any mass produced conversions like the Richards Mason models that Uberti makes. They don't use a Colt-style conversion ring, and they retain the percussion loading levers to keep their 1860's appearance.
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You must have used the pause feature a lot to figure all that out from the movie.... :D

While I'm sure you're right I suspect that a lot of poetic license was used by the movie makers. I don't doubt that your thoughts provide a valid historical solution for the movie but from what I've read about them I seriously doubt that they had a historical arms specialist on these old low budget spaghetti westerns.
 
BCRider said:
Yep, any of the open top versions shown on this page;

http://www.uberti.com/firearms/army_navy_conversion_and_open_top.php

It has to be one of the open top versions since the Remington New Army conversion does not allow the barrel to come off. And Tuco clearly pushed out the wedges to allow swapping of the cylinder and barrel. As I recall he even looks down it to check the rifling.

And since the movie takes place in some non descript time there's no reason to think that the conversions are not valid for that time. I gather from my reading that the early cartridge 1873's and conversions existed alongside the cap and ball guns for quite a while. Not everyone had the means to buy a new fangled cartridge gun and the fancy and pricey cartridges when they first came out. Cap and ball existed side by side with the cartridge guns for at least a couple of decades for just this reason.
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Not totally non-descript time - it's still during the Civil War, isn't it?
 
I came across that movie recently on TV while it was in progress a couple of days ago and like always I watch it over and over again it is great, and yes that scene where he interchanges parts caught my attention. I was always confused by what were clearly black powder revolvers but metallic cartridge belts were prominently featured in these movies.

I know precious little about the revolvers of that time period and have done some reading to understand more about them. I would very much like to acquire a four-click Colt-type SAA as a new planned purchase I just don't know enough to decide which Uberti, Pietta or Cimarron to look for so it is authentic to the revolvers of that time period.
 
The movie unambiguously takes place during the Civil War. I suspect that the reason metallic cartridges are shown being used with cap and ball revolvers is a combination of artistic license and the fact that prop guns often were converted to use standard 5-in-1 blanks.
 
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