Provincials @ Barrie
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What other info do you want? The flyer and reg form cover everything we need to know. Stage diagrams are probably still in the approval system so theres no point in posting them yet. THe only thing I can't find is the start times but I'm sure it won't be a suprise. Match is 2 months out still loads of time to get the info we need. No ones complaining about the Kingston match, and thats closer.
As it becomes available.
Every year there is a sticky posted to the Provincials.
Some advertising for the match here will help.
I am not complaining, just posting info.
The Kinston match is close but it is not the Ontario Provincials. (I am hoping to shoot that match)
195 round count ?
The cost of the match at $100 - $130, either way is fair for a provincial level 3....
the round count is what stumps me.
195 rnds ? we've shot level 2's in Ontario that had 120 - 150 rnds., granted, rare...Hopefully this gets modified up some before final, if not final yet ?
Oh, maybe they did that so single stackers like myself don't get tired having to reload so oftern ?
The cost of the match at $100 - $130, either way is fair for a provincial level 3....
the round count is what stumps me.
195 rnds ? we've shot level 2's in Ontario that had 120 - 150 rnds., granted, rare...Hopefully this gets modified up some before final, if not final yet ?
Oh, maybe they did that so single stackers like myself don't get tired having to reload so oftern ?
The cost of the match at $100 - $130, either way is fair for a provincial level 3....
the round count is what stumps me.
195 rnds ? we've shot level 2's in Ontario that had 120 - 150 rnds., granted, rare...Hopefully this gets modified up some before final, if not final yet ?
Oh, maybe they did that so single stackers like myself don't get tired having to reload so oftern ?
Where have I say is fair or not?
I guess you trying to play psychic
I only wish to see some nice prizes for all shooters who won something in their category, possibly with their name on it.
As for 195 rounds, I think it could be a great match as long as the stages are well design and there will be good percentage of long stages.
Pending approval, from what I recall, you will not be disappointed.
Thanks Phil,
all provincials I remember were challenging and one in Barrie in 2006, which was my first Provincial match was a beauty. I think R. T. was in charge then, and he did heck of great job. I will not forget swinger, which never wanna slow down
, swinging bridge, climbing wall. Name it, this match was amazing.High round count is not an indicator of a good match. Interesting, challenging, diverse courses of fire are what makes a match memorable. If that happens to mean a lot of lead down range, that's cool.
Far too often, the 32 round COF max, and the 8 round max from any one position guidance seems to shape course design.
I have faith that the guys at Barrie will pull off yet another excellent match.
Far too often, the 32 round COF max, and the 8 round max from any one position guidance seems to shape course design.
I have faith that the guys at Barrie will pull off yet another excellent match.
Make it 6 max rounds per position or even 4. Course designers tend to forget about revolver shooters.
Rumor has it that mrclean is designing the stages this time...
My point is it's entirely possible for a creative course designer to come up with brilliant short courses.
Stage one at the last Sharon L2 is a classic example. It was an holstered but unloaded start, all mags on your belt. On the buzzer, load and engage three large and three small poppers. Challenging as hell.
Stage three was a medium course with a number of possible means of attack, but I don't think there were more than two targets within arms reach of each other. Again, a challenge both mentally and physically.
Hmm, Mr. Clean has a hand in this eh! Must harrass him.
Limiting the number of rounds available from each location to make it better for revolvers is not a fair option to everyone else.
Speaking as a wheelgunner, all are limited with the number of rounds they have so it is a matter of personal creativity where they plan out their reloads.
A good course design gives options to everyone regardless of division and the Sharon match was a good example with the added factor of having to use those bumpy things on top of the gun.
Speaking as a wheelgunner, all are limited with the number of rounds they have so it is a matter of personal creativity where they plan out their reloads.
A good course design gives options to everyone regardless of division and the Sharon match was a good example with the added factor of having to use those bumpy things on top of the gun.
Stage one at the last Sharon L2 is a classic example. It was an holstered but unloaded start, all mags on your belt. On the buzzer, load and engage three large and three small poppers. Challenging as hell.
Not challenging. Just required a little bit of practice
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Stage three was a medium course with a number of possible means of attack, but I don't think there were more than two targets within arms reach of each other. Again, a challenge both mentally and physically.
I won that one in Production, even so I was sloooow. It was a great one, so as stages 4, 6, 8. All short to medium revolver friendly courses.
I think round count play important role in making a match greater.
In USPSA, most of Area matches are more then 200 and some times in high 200's. Also the stages. IMO long stages are where a skilled shooter can established his lead over others. So more long stages, better for testing shooters abilities in one package.
Good match will have stages with weak and strong hand,
with shooting on the move, going prone at least on one occasion or more, transitions, transitions, transitions
crouching, drawing from different positions, shooting at no more then few targets at the time, long shots - minimum 30m (I like what boys did in Halifax with those long poppers @45m), going through door, getting freaking confuse while trying to solve the stage (many different ways to solve particular problem), good speed shoot, lots of steel, swingers, disappearing targets
Usually when I go to Area match I can see most of that and that is why I love shooting in US.
Now if we can fit all this into low round count that is fine.
This is my opinion based on my observation.
Limiting the number of rounds available from each location to make it better for revolvers is not a fair option to everyone else.
Speaking as a wheelgunner, all are limited with the number of rounds they have so it is a matter of personal creativity where they plan out their reloads.
A good course design gives options to everyone regardless of division and the Sharon match was a good example with the added factor of having to use those bumpy things on top of the gun.
You mean a C-more, right?
I agree; calibrating an entire level III match to specifically accommodate what, 2% of the shooters while putting the brakes on everyone else would not go over too well. People who opt for Revolver Division pretty much accept that they are going to be reloading like mad most of the time, and in any case; intelligent stage design ensures that shooters in all divisions face challenges that balance out well, offering multiple options for creative solutions, and test everyone's skills against other competitors in their Division/s.
