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So my question is... Do I need the forward pressure point on a .920 barrel or can it free float. I put it on and it looks centered without the block in the front. I have the block modified to fit, or 95% anyway, and wondered if its needed with such a short heavy barrel.
 
I take it you were looking at the Dlask 12" heavy barrel! I was just looking at that last night after a fellow CGN'er brought it to my attention. I was wondering exactly the same thing as you... The shorter barrel should free float easily enough on the 10/22 receiver but I'm not sure if the weight of the bull barrel will be an issue for free floating... I'm hoping to find the answer over on rimfirecentral.com.

I'm hoping it will work ok because that barrel would look great on my SR-22, especially with a shorter handguard.
 
If you put a shorter hand guard on don't you loose the pressure point anyway. I guess I could shoot it with out the block and go from there. The barrel sticks out of the stock guard by 1/2 inch or so. Makes it look real short. Well I guess it is real short. It looks like with the butt fully collapsed it is 27" or just a hair less. I will get a good tape on it today.
 
You are correct, if you swap out the handguard for a shorter one the barrel will definitely be free floating. So I'm hoping that the short bull barrel doesn't sag. As for the support block in the handguard, most of the shooters over on rimfirecentral.com have removed the block. Some say the accuracy has improved and some see no difference. But that is with the stock 16.12" barrel so It's hard to say how that would apply to a shorter but heavier barrel.

Definitely post the OAL once you get a good measurement! I'm sure it will still be over the legal length but it will be great to know by how much! Thanks
 
I have been waiting for this topic to come up!
Will be ordering a new bbl and shorty handguard at the end of the month!
Thanks guys!

Later...
 
I don't know much about the SR22,
but the Ruger slip-fit system NEEDS the barrel to be supported in the front.

Really? I did wonder about that, but there seems to be an awful lot of dressed up 10/22s that are free floated. I was under the impression, form what I have read over on rimfire central, that free floating a 10/22 barrel is a good thing as long as the barrel isn't heavy enough to make it sag... but you can't believe everything that you read on the internet I guess!
 
Really? I did wonder about that, but there seems to be an awful lot of dressed up 10/22s that are free floated. I was under the impression, form what I have read over on rimfire central, that free floating a 10/22 barrel is a good thing as long as the barrel isn't heavy enough to make it sag... but you can't believe everything that you read on the internet I guess!

This is my impression as well krausb... so long as the barrel isn't overly heavy and doesn't cause sag, then you're alright. Lots of people goto the length of having their actions and barrels threaded (or buy threaded actions and barrels) to free-float the 10/22... which is probably the route I would go, if I were to float my 10/22.
 
How about using this?? Rimfire Technologies Custom Modified V-Block. It adds extra support to help prevent barrel drop.

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Really? I did wonder about that, but there seems to be an awful lot of dressed up 10/22s that are free floated. I was under the impression, form what I have read over on rimfire central, that free floating a 10/22 barrel is a good thing as long as the barrel isn't heavy enough to make it sag... but you can't believe everything that you read on the internet I guess!


I am aware that a lot of people do that (they shouldn't).

First, for freefloating ANY kind of barrel attached to the Ruger 10/22,
you need the second hold-down on the receiver
(if you say you visit rimfirecentral, you know what that is).

Secondly, even in set-ups that use the second hold-down on the receiver,
the slip-fit barrel cannot be realistically free-floated, because the so-called "droop" will:
1. make most scopes run out of adjustment,
2. put a huge amount of stress on the receiver,
3. make a poor contact between barrel and receiver (less rigid),
resulting in an un-stable barrel (poor accuracy).





If you want to free float the 10/22 barrel,
then you need a second hold-down AND a threaded barrel.
And even then, if you want results,
you should go with a light(er) barrel
and a strong, very rigid aftermarket receiver
.


There are, of course, some compromises, but few.
One of them is the bedding of the first 3" of barrel in front of the receiver
and freefloating the rest of it
(yes, I know it does not apply to SR22).




Most people who free-floated their threaded 10/22 barrels
on OEM Ruger receivers are not very thrilled by the results.
People who bedded seem to be happier.
People who did both say they prefer bedding.



I started to experiment right now
with a special-purpose (dedicated) threaded receiver,
(that is more than just a regular receiver with a taped barrel hole)
Results in few weeks.
 
That is an excellent explanation! Thanks Dr. Lector; it makes sense to me now. I was contemplating swapping out the barrel and handguard on my SR-22 for a shorter barrel and a shorter free float AR-15 railed handguard, but I think I will hold off. So thanks for saving me a wad of cash and a lesson learned the hard way!
 
Easy solution on my sr-22 with 11.5" sporter profile barrel and utg carbine railed free float forend is to modify the factory plastic barrel support and attach it to the new forend. Combined with the rimfirec tech vblock I'm GTG.
 
First, for freefloating ANY kind of barrel attached to the Ruger 10/22,
you need the second hold-down on the receiver
(if you say you visit rimfirecentral, you know what that is).

I wonder if Dlask could make a second hold-down for their receivers. A lug with a post that slips into the rear cleaning rod hole and has a screwdown into a modified stock.

Actually, it might be nice to be able to order receiver/threaded barrel combos?
 
I'm working on that right now.
But, so everybody understands it correctly, this is not related to SR-22, but
to the general purpose everyday stock.
If it can be applied to specialized stocks, we'll see.
 
Well this is what it looks like with a 12". I put the pressure block in and saw no difference. I will leave it in as that is what is suggested unless further mods are done. 1500+ through it so far, 525 on the 12". One fail to fire. Using Federal bulk blue box Champion 36gr. Puts all shots inside the dot at all ranges.


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Go find a proper mount for the red dot.
Try Dave's Surplus if that is a 30mil.
Choose the height of it very careful
(make sure it will co-witness the irons).
That means to call them and specify that you intend
to use it in tandem with MBUS.
 
wow...that sure makes all my 22 s look normal,, all 9 of them , 5 rifles and 4 hand guns
I ll bet it,s a great gopher gun....and that's on tomorrows agenda
Have fun with it
 
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