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Looking for first hand info from those of you that have been there.

1) What countries are the best to hunt in, say your top 2 choices?

2) For plains game animals, what are your top 5 trophies (that you have or would like to have)?

Feel free to post links or names of outfitters that you recommend...

Thanks!
 
The main countries to hunt in:

- South Africa
- Namibia
- Zimbabwe
- Botswana
- Mozambique
- Tanzania (expensive but will get there one day)

Top 5 Plains Game Species:
- Sable
- Nyala
- Kudu
- Gemsbok
- Eland

I have hunted in Botswana and Namibia and did a quick visit in Zimbabwe.

My hunt report is around here somewhere. I will try and find it.

Are you looking at going soon?
 
Depends what you want?

RSA, Namibia and Zim will offer you good plains game general/mixed bags with lots of operators and best prices.

Want sable? Zim/Zambia

Nyala? RSA/Mozambique

Gemsbuck (oryx) / springbok /Hartebeest - RSA, namibia, Botswana

For dangerous game RSA is not the best choice (except rhino), Zim perhaps has the best prices, Bots a TZ are good but pricy.

If you want east african plains species then TZ is the way to go.
 
The main countries to hunt in:

- South Africa
- Namibia
- Zimbabwe
- Botswana
- Mozambique
- Tanzania (expensive but will get there one day)

Top 5 Plains Game Species:
- Sable
- Nyala
- Kudu
- Gemsbok
- Eland

I have hunted in Botswana and Namibia and did a quick visit in Zimbabwe.

My hunt report is around here somewhere. I will try and find it.

Are you looking at going soon?

It's in the Hunting forum, the thread, 1st Trip To Africa....Dialup Bewarned, posted 08-26-2009:).
 
For those three on the same hunt, look to South Africa or Namibia.
If I were starting over, I'd begin with buffalo and just pick up plainsgame on the side.

Care to shed a little light on that?
 
I hunted South Africa in 06, had a great time. I took eland, kudu, gemsbok, impala and blesbok. I'd really like sable, nyala, and roan in the future, maybe Cape Buffalo as well. South Africa is pretty reasonable for plains game. I'm not sure about posting links, if you're interested I can PM you the sight of the outfitter I used.
 
Care to shed a little light on that?

Sure. It is common to recomend that a hunter should do a plains game hunt or three before trying buffalo or other dangerous game. That makes sense if a hunter has limited experience, which is surprisingly common. They don't know who you are, but you do.
On the otherhand, if a hunter has years, or decades of experience I just don't believe that he needs all the "on the job training". You can argue that it doesn't do any harm, but may not be the best use of money and time.
Depending on the country that you are hunting in, plains game that are shot on DG hunts may have cheaper trophy fees than the same animal on PG trip. For example an eland can be over 3500 in South Africa, or maybe 1200 in Zimbabwe. I could have shot sable in Zim for $1500. If you just started hunting buffalo and cherry picking antelope along the way you might not even be spending any more money. After 2 PG and 1 DG hunt you should have a pile of plainsgame and one buffalo. Doing it the way that I suggest you would have a pile of plainsgame and 3 buffalo and/or maybe a leopard or maybe elephant if you went that way.
For what it's worth, I did the 2 PG, 1 buffalo, then elephant route myself. That's how I formed the opinion.
Funny thing is, after buffalo the plainsgame don't seem to mean as much, and after elephant nothing else does.
 
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I agree with Dogleg.

We were told to get our feet wet with a PG hunt or 2 and then move to the other stuff. And I can see where some people would need that experience. If the only hunting that you have ever done is chasing whitetails out of a tree stand or box blind then shooting off of a set of shooting sticks is very foreign.

But for the most part, if you have been chasing deer on foot and using fence posts and trees for rests then the move to shooting sticks takes no getting use to. IMO

For those 3 animals then Soth Africa, Namibia and Botswana would be my choice. In no particular order.

A 10 day plains game hunt could be done for under $10000, with out too much trouble.
 
If-when I go to Africa it will be buffalo, buffalo, buffalo etc... forget the other stuff or shoot it incidental to a buff' hunt is definitely what I'd do. Yeah, I'd do that.

I have read books and books on cape buffalo and elephants. I love the look of kudu, sable, eland etc, but they don't turn my crank.

If I win the lottery :rolleyes: then sure, I'd do the 'plain' game.
 
Looking for first hand info from those of you that have been there.

1) What countries are the best to hunt in, say your top 2 choices?

2) For plains game animals, what are your top 5 trophies (that you have or would like to have)?

Feel free to post links or names of outfitters that you recommend...

Thanks!


For game like Kudu, Wildebeest (blue), Sable, Impala, Spring-buck, Eland, Bles buck, Bush buck and a host of others - I would choose SA (Limpopo province) and Namibia specifically for Gems buck and Zebra .

Botswana is not a bad choice as well, perhaps - if you like fishing, and want to throw some chrome at a tiger. The hunting isn't bad either, politically it is pretty dam stable.

Plenty of advice here to go for nyati - (Buff) Go for it if you want to, any PH worth his salt will ensure a good safe hunt.

However, Buff is not the alpha and Omega of African hunting - quite frankly it is but another bovine, use the appropriate tools, and it will die just as easily as any other horned animal or pachyderm.

Make your African hunting experience your own don't get led like a sheep, there are many fascinating aspects to hunting in Africa, take the time to get to know the people you are hunting with - you may wish to hunt dangerous game some time in the future, my advice is appreciate the small five first - then think about the big six.

Should you want any further information feel free to pm me - I will be happy to give you a few good contacts that I have out there.
 
Dogleg makes a good point, but there can be issues with trying to add antelope to a DG safari. I'm headed to the Zambezi Valley in Zimbabwe in July. From what I've been told, the buffalo are prolific and there are lots of Impala, but other antelope have severely restricted quotas...like 8 Kudu for the area I'm hunting (Chewore South). I don't think there is better buffalo hunting available than in the Zambezi Valley. Lots of animals and good trophy quality makes for a good recipe.

But blargon isn't talking about a DG hunt. His top 3, Kudu, Gemsbok and Eland (plus a few sundry beasties), make me think that he needs to seriously look at RSA or Namibia. Gemsbok tend to not wear their horns as much in the sandy country of Northern Namibia. Their Kudu and Eland are supposed to be good as well.

I hunted RSA in 2007. I was in the Northern Cape but traveled quite a bit (almost into the North West Province and the Free State). The downside to RSA is that all the hunting is behind wire. Now, the area you hunt on may be huge, and may well be several times larger than the animal's natural range. You may never even see a fence. You just have to get right with it ahead of time. RSA also has incredibly varied terrain, from the Kalahari area of the Northern Cape to the thick bush and valleys in the Limpopo and the Mountains of the Eastern Cape. Lots of guys also have concessions in several areas so you could hunt the Kalahari area for a monster Gemsbok, and then collect Eastern Cape Kudu and Bushbuck. Another bonus is that you can get your taxidermy done in RSA and shipped home for a very reasonable price (way less than dip and ship and having taxidermy done in Canada).

Namibia would also be an excellent choice. I've never been but I'd sure like to.

Above all, and it pains me to say it, don't go with a "crew". I did in RSA and, while I enjoyed it, the PH tried to skimp and we spent all our time riding around in a truck with three hunters, two observers, two PHs and a tracker (or two). I would have preferred to spend more time walking and stalking with my PH (or even my PH and another hunter) but this guy had his way of hunting and that was that. Knowing what I know now, I would have checked into that more before I went. Certainly on my next PG hunt I will be sure to tell the PH how I want to hunt ahead of time to avoid any repeat.

My top 5 PG trophies would be as follows...
Kudu
Gemsbok
Zebra
Wildebeest (both varieties)
Impala

Now, someone's going to say "Is he mad? No Sable?" I consider Sable to be a specialized hunt - probably your best bet would be some of the spots in Zim that still have decent populations of Sable, or Mozambique. Or, pray for it, Angola (Royal Sable anyone?). My top 5 is what I would want to get after on a southern African PG hunt. From where I am now I've got different priorities, but that list would be my first choices on a first hunt. If I was doing an RSA PG hunt now I'd be looking for a really good Kudu (mid 50's), Bushbuck, Eland, Zebra (I've got unfinished business with the stripey bastards), Nyala and a Black Wildebeest. I'd shoot a Gemsbok bull that was 37" or better (my Gemsbok cow is 41 5/8" so it would need a stout bull to complement it) and a bigger Impala. The colour phase Springbok don't do it for me and I'm on the fence about the Hartebeest and Waterbuck.

I have a buddy that is a PH in RSA. He worked for the outfit that I went with and went out on his own a couple of years ago (hard to live on the $500 a month that his boss paid him). I'd hunt with him again.

Hell, let's be honest. There aren't may things over there that I'd not want to hunt! :D
 
Would be great if everyone could post links to their PH.
I know Boomer hunted with Mark Sullivan's crew and had good things to say.

http://w ww.nitroexpresssafaris.com

Please continue the stream of great info guys.
 
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Is that kosher if they're not board sponsors? I got my one warnign from the Mod Squad for the year. If it's cool with them I'll definately post.

The rule here is against hotlinking, not posting links. when you do your post, unclick the little box below that says "Automatically parse links in text"...
 
I hunted in RSA with my then 18 year old son in 2007. The only countries I really considered were RSA and Namibia. I just wasn't prepared to enter Zim and support the Mugabe regime, I also worried about safety in essentially a lawless society. Others disagree and each to his own.

For me my PH was also my family Doctor's here in Alberta's brother, Nihan Engelbrecht of Huntersgame.co.za

We had a great time and my top trophies were
1 Gemsbok
2 Kudu
3 Eland
4 Impala
5 Springbok

I get DogLegs idea about going Buff first and adding PG, but I for one wouldn't pay the huge trophy fee of a Buffalo. So we went for a good package of plains game.
 
This is the guy I hunted with, not the guy that owned the land. He went out on his own a couple of years ago and I'd like to see him do well. Great guy and a hard worker.

http://sablethornsafaris.com/
 
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