found on Ellwood site IGA CONDOR COMBO OVER/ UNDER for decent price but not sure if I'm looking at right thing. My intention to shoot trap/skeet occasionally, no plans for hunting as of now. Never owned/shoot shotgun before (own/shoot rifles) so kind of lost in that field. Is o/u overkill? That model to cheap and better to stick with simple pump like rem 870?
O/U opinion
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The Condor is cheap and you get what you pay for. A quality o/u is a good choice, but I would rather have a quality pump than a cheap condor. I would be willing to pay more for a quality used o/u with choke tubes than ever buy a condor.
I went to buy a rem 870 a couple of months ago and I've ended up buying a Condor. I use it for hunting from time to time but I mainly use it for skeet with dirt cheap ammos. it feels very solid and it is very well made. I haven't had a single problem with it yet. It has screw-in chokes wich are easily avaiable. The gun also closes very tight.
You can't beat a o/u for skeet because of the possibility you have to shoot 2 sheels with different chokes.
I am pretty sure that anybody who has tried it wouldn't have anything to say against it.
As far as the "If you first canon does not shoot, you'll have to bang a tree to have the selector select the upper canon" goes, it is entirely false. Whenever you close the gun, the selector puts itself on the lower canon. to select the upper one, you only have to put the safety on and remove it. By the way, I've never had a missfire with mine
You can't beat a o/u for skeet because of the possibility you have to shoot 2 sheels with different chokes.
I am pretty sure that anybody who has tried it wouldn't have anything to say against it.
As far as the "If you first canon does not shoot, you'll have to bang a tree to have the selector select the upper canon" goes, it is entirely false. Whenever you close the gun, the selector puts itself on the lower canon. to select the upper one, you only have to put the safety on and remove it. By the way, I've never had a missfire with mine
Save a few hundred more & find a Browning Citori field model in good condition, with fixed chokes & have them both opened to modified. You can probably find this shotgun starting at about $500 & up. I would probably go with longer Barrels, but normally they can be found with 26", 28" or 30" barrels. Whatever you can get a good swing with...
This shotgun with proper care should hold it's value reasonably well & be easy to sell if you want to upgrade someday...
This shotgun with proper care should hold it's value reasonably well & be easy to sell if you want to upgrade someday...
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- Ft. Mac. Alberta
I bought a an IGA SXS a while back just to beat around with.
It was a decent gunas far as reliability goes, a bit clunky , not like my Italian guns.
HOWEVER, it was less that 1/4 the price, and if a fella is just going out shooting birds or messing with clays every now and then, it would be a good gun for that.
Cat
It was a decent gunas far as reliability goes, a bit clunky , not like my Italian guns.
HOWEVER, it was less that 1/4 the price, and if a fella is just going out shooting birds or messing with clays every now and then, it would be a good gun for that.
Cat
Not my cup of tea because of the euro styling, but I would take brno quality over condor anytime.
Just my opinion, but unless I could afford to buy a used citori, 101, red label or any used beretta, I would not buy an o/u.
As far as pumps go, I would start with used wingmasters, bps, benelli nova or 1300s.
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- Ft. Mac. Alberta
Don't rule out the entry level FAIR or Franchi shotguns!
Thse guns are good working pieces and handle very well.
I will not own another red label afater havinf warranty issues with two of them, and the FAIR is lightewr than the 101 I used to own.
I at one time owned a Berreta BL3 however, and it was SUPER light, shot where you looked, and to tell you the truth I liked it BETTER than
my 686!
It had mono ectractors, but that is not an issue for me, nice selector, and generally was a very nice gun.
Cat
That Brno is going to cost you over $500 to get it to your door. May or may not be a piece of shate, but the one thing I can tell you for certain: You will not get your money out of that shotgun if you decide to flip it for whatever reason.
Now I see! If the second shot does not fire, you simply have to move the selector between shots?
This does not seem to be a good thing? I am going to have to check with Win/64 on that one
Don't rule out the entry level FAIR or Franchi shotguns!
Thse guns are good working pieces and handle very well.
I will not own another red label afater havinf warranty issues with two of them, and the FAIR is lightewr than the 101 I used to own.
I at one time owned a Berreta BL3 however, and it was SUPER light, shot where you looked, and to tell you the truth I liked it BETTER than
my 686!
It had mono ectractors, but that is not an issue for me, nice selector, and generally was a very nice gun.
Cat
Franchi build good quality o/u's. The Falconet or whatever it was called imported by CIL could probably be found for around this price.
Don't rule out the entry level FAIR or Franchi shotguns!
Thse guns are good working pieces and handle very well.
I will not own another red label afater havinf warranty issues with two of them, and the FAIR is lightewr than the 101 I used to own.
I at one time owned a Berreta BL3 however, and it was SUPER light, shot where you looked, and to tell you the truth I liked it BETTER than
my 686!
It had mono ectractors, but that is not an issue for me, nice selector, and generally was a very nice gun.
Cat
Ya, what Cat said. I would not rule them out either. My list was not all inclusive, but just a price point to start.
I have never seen a brno double that was not mechanicaly superior to every condor that I have ever seen. Though I have seen fewer brno doubles, I have seen hundreds of condors. Do not have to bang a bruno on a tree or flip a selector between shots.
Whenever you close the gun, the two firing pins sets themselves in firing position and the triggers activates the lower one. When you shoot the first pin, the recoil sets the second pin to be fired. If that would fail to hapen for some reasons, you can flip the safety on on and off to have the selector put itself on the other canon. That way you can go from top to lower canon as if you had a manual selector.
To answer the
"If the second shot does not fire, you simply have to move the selector between shots?"
I'd say that if your second shot did not went boom, you're due to crack open the thing and load it with 2 new shells as you would with any other SxS or O/U.
I'd prefer to have a manual selector but heck, for 1/2 de price of the next cheapest o/u I can live without it
Why is everybody commenting about it's quality? Did I miss a known recuring problem with this gun or you guys just think that it can't be of good quality because of the low price?
To answer the
"If the second shot does not fire, you simply have to move the selector between shots?"
I'd say that if your second shot did not went boom, you're due to crack open the thing and load it with 2 new shells as you would with any other SxS or O/U.
I'd prefer to have a manual selector but heck, for 1/2 de price of the next cheapest o/u I can live without it
Why is everybody commenting about it's quality? Did I miss a known recuring problem with this gun or you guys just think that it can't be of good quality because of the low price?
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- Ft. Mac. Alberta
Owned four of those at ome time!!
I love thew Falconet, but have not seen one in 20 guage for quite a while.
They were also a lightweight, alloy framed field gun.
Cat
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- Ft. Mac. Alberta
Ive owned a number of brnos, and loved them all!
Cat
Don't get me wrong, I'm not praising or berating the Brno, as I don't have any experience with it. Only at resale can say that it would be a tougher sale to anyone in the market for an o/u than as compared to the commonly known Citori. As for the Condor's, I haven't heard to many actual shooting owners praise them and no where would I endorse them.
Everybody's hooked on screw in chokes & pay the extra dollar on entry level O/U's to have this feature. This leaves some older quality o/u's from some 30 years back ripe for the picking. Why would I spend around $600 for a new condor when I could get an older Citori for the same price?
