Deer Rifles?

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I am interested in purchasing a Deer Rifle for hunting in Southern Ontario. What are some of the best and reasonably priced rifles on the market today for this application? I believe that the legal caliber can not be grater then .270? I have looked into Remington 700 .270, I am also interested in lever action. Please feel free to share your opinion, and ideas.

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PANDA_BEAR said:
I believe that the legal caliber can not be grater then .270?

Thanks
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I think maybe the the legal caliber cannot be SMALLER than 270, which is similar to Alberta. I use 30.06 for everything except at the beginning of doe season where I use my SKS.
 
if you are limited to 270 or smaller,look at 243 one of the most under rated deer calibers around,ammo avalibility might be a factor on some other calibers like the 6.5x55,25-06 etc.as for action style check out the pump action rifles as well.
 
fiddler said:
I think maybe the the legal caliber cannot be SMALLER than 270, which is similar to Alberta. I use 30.06 for everything except at the beginning of doe season where I use my SKS.
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Yeah. Similar. Except that in Alberta it reads 'cannot be smaller than .230' bore size' or such to that effect, making anything bigger than a .22 centerfire legal for big game here.

Really been considering a 6mm on a .223 case....

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Trev
 
Trade ex sells some fine rifles at a great value. Or stevens 200 at $380 + cost of scope. You can buy a lever action new for under $500 in 30-30. If you go used for $500 +/- you can find a nice savage 99 in .308, 300 sav ect. Marlin, win 94 are also common picks. A slug gun is also another great short range no fuss tool with tons of knock down power.
 
Thank you on the input guys!
The regulation being no bigger than .270 I believe is because larger calibers such as 30-06, and 308 carry too far, therefore endangering the surrounding ,and past the wooded area. That is why in Southern Ontario we are limited to .270, and is some areas shotguns, and muzzleloaders only as mentioned by mlehtovaara. Any other suggestions on rifle make, and model?
 
Tikka T3 Lite or Rem 700 or Winchester 70 in .270 or .270WSM cover's all from coyote's to moose . If money is an issue a savage will work . Find one that's comfortable .
 
I gather your hunting in the area where it states you cannot hunt with a bullet over .270 caliber. In that case the .270 win is out as it a .270 by name not by what it actually is. When I lived in the Kitchener area I used a 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser and knocked many a deer. Great rifle and caliber combo. a .257 Wheatherby is a wonderful rifle as well for use in this area. Stop in at Al Simmons gun shop, you'll be a happy camper. A Weatherby Vanguard in .257 will last you a life time and has more than ample power should you move up to moose. Howa makes Vanguard for Weatherby and you might find a Howa .257 as well. A 25-06 would also work wonders for you as would the 260 Rem. If your not planning on longer 200 plus shots, the .257 Roberts, .243win,6mm rem ..

If I was to do it again now, 30 years later, I'd be going and getting a .257 Weatherby and reloading equipment. Fast and flat. The .243 would be a back up in a short 20" bush rifle set up.

So a Tikka or Sako in 6.5x55, 260rem, .243, 6mm rem, 25-06 Win.
Weatherby Vanguard or what ever Weatherby in .257 Weatherby
Howa in .257 Weatherby, 243, 260 rem
Winchester Model 70 in 6.5x55, 243win, 6mm rem, 260 rem, .257 Roberts, , 257 Weatherby, 25-06 win
Ruger 77 NICE, just by the way, 6.5x55, 243, 6mm, 260, 257 Roberts

Really never liked Remington rifles.

Swedish Mauser 6.5x55 M38, can also be found as Kimber rifles as Kimber reworked a bunch(M96) back around 1990. If you find one, buy it. Drilled for scope mounts.
 
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PANDA_BEAR said:
Thank you on the input guys!
The regulation being no bigger than .270 I believe is because larger calibers such as 30-06, and 308 carry too far, therefore endangering the surrounding ,and past the wooded area. That is why in Southern Ontario we are limited to .270, and is some areas shotguns, and muzzleloaders only as mentioned by mlehtovaara. Any other suggestions on rifle make, and model?
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Not familiar with Ont. regs, but a .308 or .30-06 won't carry any further than a .270 win....270 is just a necked down -06. Same as a 7mm.08 is necked down .308, etc etc. Call me simple, but I don't understand the logic there. You can have a small calibre that carries alot farther with more down range energy than a larger calibre. Compare a .257 roberts to a .45-70. After 300 yrds or so, the game changes completely....the roberts will still be going strong long after that big lead slug of .45 is in the dirt. I'll compare the .45 and .25 as there is such a huge difference in bore, but for the sake of argument....

Take a 405 gr. .45/70 At 200 yrds you have a velocity of 1078 and 1046 Energy
the .257 Roberts with a 117 gr BTHP velocity of 2330 and 1461 Energy

.45-70 with 405 gr at 300 yrds velocity of 999, Energy 897
.257 Roberts 117 gr BTHP velocity 2122, Energy 1170

Seems to me the way to go is with a big Azz .45-70 lever. Won't carry too far, but up close it will knock down Bambi OK I guess......
 
6.5x55 is what i'm yearning for man. I'd love to get one but i've already blown thousands on rifles this year and we're not even half way into it yet. I think i'm going to get one for my next birthday. I'd look into what Trade Ex has to offer if i were you. Thats what i'm going to do and if i can find something i like in really good condition i'll be jumping on it right away. I have a preference for older guns in great condition though. You may not. Keep your eyes and ears open and when you find something that fits you (and the regulations) just right, don't hesitate to buy it. Good luck.

Dorian
 
PANDA_BEAR said:
I am interested in purchasing a Deer Rifle for hunting in Southern Ontario. What are some of the best and reasonably priced rifles on the market today for this application?
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Check out the Marlin XL7 in 270Win.

They are getting very good reviews, are reputed to be quite accurate and are very reasonably priced, leaving you a few bucks left over for a scope and ammo.

Read on ......

http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...gonew/1/The_best_Marlin_X_gun_group_ev#UNREAD
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...lat/Number/4081797/gonew/1/Marlin_XL7C#UNREAD
http://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbth...1383/30_06_Camo_for_sale_Accurate#Post4031383
 
SuperCub said:
Check out the Marlin XL7 in 270Win.

They are getting very good reviews, are reputed to be quite accurate and are very reasonably priced, leaving you a few bucks left over for a scope and ammo.
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Agreed. I have one in 30-06 and its a tack driver. Inexpensive, and shoots groups under one inch. What more do you want from a hunting rifle that for the price you will not cry if you scratch the barrel or scar up the stock. Another bonus is that it has an adjustable trigger and a recoil pad that actually works great. On the down side, if your hunting where you have to unload and reload your rifle many times during the day, this rifle has a blind mag, and may be a PITA for you, otherwise its a great rifle, and as Super Cup mentioned, save $$$ on the rifle and buy some nice glass for it.
 
You cannot use a centerfire rifle for deer hunting in Southern and south/western Ontario. The furthest south you can use a rifle is WMU 82 and 84. The only thing you can use a rifle for in southern Ontario is small game, and that is where the caliber restriction comes into effect. The very first thing I would suggest you do before you buy anything for deer hunting in southern Ontario is to get a copy of the hunting regulations and see what the restrictions are for the particular WMU you want to hunt in. For WMU's were one is permitted to use a rifle, there are no caliber restrictions.
 
This topic seems to come up almost monthly. d:h:

The >.275 calibre, applies to small game only

The holder of a small game licence may not use a rifle of
greater calibre than .275, except a flintlock or percussion
cap muzzle-loading gun, for hunting small game in
the counties of Brant, Elgin, Essex, Huron, Lambton,
Middlesex, Northumberland, Oxford, Perth and
Wellington and the regional municipalities of Chatham/
Kent, Durham, the former regional municipalities of
Haldimand-Norfolk and Hamilton-Wentworth, Halton,
Niagara, Peel, Waterloo and York and the City of Toronto. pages 29-31).
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From here: http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/stdprodconsume/groups/lr/@mnr/@fw/documents/document/239852.pdf

The words "deer", "southern Ontario", and "rifle" generally, do not go together. Especially since the OP is from Hamilton.

Read deer reg's here: http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/stdprodconsume/groups/lr/@mnr/@fw/documents/document/239849.pdf
 
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