Your Favourite Swiss Arm Classic Green Load?

Thanks for the advice...

prairieguy said:
Dan,

You should be able to rest the forend / use the bipod without too much degradation of accuracy. I shoot mine off the bipod and off a front rest under the forend and get more than acceptable accuracy.

I wonder if your expectations are too high. You are shooting a semi auto service rifle, albeit a very accurate one. Even the most meticulous handloader with tuned ammo is never going to get better than .75 MOA or so with any consistency. I've got mine shooting in the 1.25 MOA to .75 MOA range with most groups averaging just under 1 MOA.

Crimping is a necessity with a semi. It does not have to be much of a crimp but at least enough that you cannot feel a sharp case mouth lip on the brass. If you do not crimp you run the risk of the loading action pushing your bullets deep into the cases which will not help your accuracy problems one bit. Not crimping also increases the risk that you will get jams as the uncrimped case mouth may rub or bind against the chamber walls.

If you are going to shoot the 77 SMK with cannelure you need to be setting your OAL so the cannelure is just at the case mouth and crimp into the cannelure. You can't fiddle with seating depth on these.

I see from your list of bullets tried so far you've completely skipped over the 62-69 gr pills. Those are the most likely to produce top accuracy in the CG family of guns. Get some 69 gr SMK, put them on top of 25.5 gr of Varget with an OAL of 2.265 and shoot. you should get groups in the 1 MOA range plus or minus a bit either side.

Don't forget the Swiss designed the CG to shoot a 63 gr bullet. You can't get them unless you buy loaded Ruag ammo for big $ but the 69 gr SMK and Amax are excellent substitutes.
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Thanks for the advice. Yes basically i have stayed away from the 62-69 grain bullets because of availability. Just cant seem to get my hands on them because they seem to be out of stock here... I do have some 65 gr Seirra GKs that i will try next week.. I do suppose i am expecting a bit much out of the gun... I used to shoot a .243 Rem 700 BDL varmit rifle and that gun was amazing with respect to accuracy... Have to get used to this Semi auto accuracy...
 
For factory fodder, give American Eagle 62 grain a try. My rifle showed some real promise with that round.

I have some 62 and 64 Berger that I will be trying out with my Swiss. They're designed for 63 grain ammo. Although mine seems to shoot the Factory Ruag 63 grain stuff like crap :confused:.
 
Epoxy7 said:
For factory fodder, give American Eagle 62 grain a try. My rifle showed some real promise with that round.

I have some 62 and 64 Berger that I will be trying out with my Swiss. They're designed for 63 grain ammo. Although mine seems to shoot the Factory Ruag 63 grain stuff like crap :confused:.
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Thanks for the tip..

RDG
 
I had good luck with the cheap Winchester 45 grain hollow points, which suprized me due to their weight and price... about 3/4 inch groups at a 100 yards. I never should sold that thing. Crazy, I know...
 
Epoxy7 said:
For factory fodder, give American Eagle 62 grain a try. My rifle showed some real promise with that round.

I have some 62 and 64 Berger that I will be trying out with my Swiss. They're designed for 63 grain ammo. Although mine seems to shoot the Factory Ruag 63 grain stuff like crap :confused:.
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Is your rifle the 1:7 or 1:10 twist? Apparently the rifle designed around the GP90 round is the 1:10 twist.
 
I have a stock 1:10 20" rifle, and absolutely no desire (or patience) to handload for .223.

My Classic Green will spit factory American Eagle 55gr and 62 gr, or Federal 55gr HP, or Winchester 45gr HP all into 2" at 100m all day... And, I am a particularly average rifle shot, with far too much caffeine in my diet. Occasionally I do a little better... That is with iron sights, BTW.

I'm pretty sure that someone with some skill could actually half my group sizes with no great trouble!
 
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My rifle will outshoot my ability anyday of the week.
That makes my favourite load rather like my favourite beer, the one someone else buys.
 
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