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O.K. I`ll keep it brief. I hunted bears lots years ago. Shot some, have a nice big brown blacky on the wall. quit bear hunting many years ago but allways said I`d like to take one Grizzly. Got the draw this year. Did some reseach on topo maps a google map. Went in 3 weks ago, couldn`t get into the valley I wanted to but saw 12 Blackies and 2 grizzlies. Went back last weekend, well actually Thurs. evening. got past the drifts, cut 3 trees going in. We were the first in. glassed bowls and slide shoots and cut blocks. passed on the Boar of what we thought was a mating pair on Fri. morning about 6:30. Please understand I was looking for a representative mature boar and nothing more. We quickly dicovered that the grizzlies were confined to the end of the valley past the last drainage to the north. We consentrated our efforts there. The road was deactivated but we could get the truck close. We were in the block before daylight and spent several hours a day glassing it between excursions out to check the slide shoots farther out. We had spent several hours hunkered down in a natural blind Sat. afternoon. We went out to check the slides then came back in the evening. this time we set up 100 yds. farther down the road. Glasing the block for about an hour when this guy walks up outa the creek bottom from behind. comes up right at our natural blind. He was 50-75 yds out right in front of us. He didn`t even flinch when I raised the gun and got ready. Just kept walking towards us. He was quartering slightly to my left when I touched it off. Somehow only managed to nick the shoulder and the bullet went diagonally through. Hammered him down still. No movement for 20-25 seconds then he lifted his head. I hit him twice more just because. The first shot was a sure killer but I hate to see anything suffer. So, not your typical `stalked in 500 yds and made a 250 shot`We put in our time and were at the right place at the right time. No monster but I`m very happy plus two awsome weekends hunting with my son. He was backup with my 375. First kill in my 416 Rem. Mag.
BigUglyMan
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- New Scotland
That's a helluva nice bear!
westcoaster
CGN Regular
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- Central BC
First, MTM - Nice bear and congratulations.
Here is the first one. This one a member of our party's son on his first dedicated bear hunt. He wounded this one and my partner and I went in after it. There was a good blood trail but why do they go into the thickest sh$t they can find?
Anyway we were nosing through, visibility 20 to 50 feet. I caught a sillouette of this guy at about 30 feet. He was looking right at me from behind a fallen tree and some bushes. He came around the root ball and turned toward me and I put one through his lungs.
He looked like he was picked up anf thrown against a tree behind him. Twitched twice and expired. Double lung, lungs and thoracic cavity appeared to have been turned into goo.
The second one I also finished at about 50 yards. Took two steps, rolled over kind of twitched twice and died. Again the exit hole was m,aybe an inch with the goo inside where the lungs used to be.
Both bears died very quickly once they had ingested the A Frame.
MTM, what bullet did you use? Did you recover any?
I've got 400gr Trophy Bonded BearClaws, Hornady Interlocks & Interbonds + Nosler Partitions all loaded up, ready to sight in the rifle.
I loaded all of them with 76.5grs RL-15, CCI Magnm primers. Remington brass.
I have Chrony'd this load at 2375fps avg vel, previously. I'll be double checking the velocities of all these, when I go to the range.
Hi bullets were 350 TSXs loafing along at 2535. None recovered all left the imediate vicinity. The load was 83 grs. Rel.15. For 400s I normally shoot 80 grs. for 2450+ fps. By the way I very much still remember our last conversation. I have no probelem with it. We've talked in the distant past too, lets consider the hatchet burried.
BigUglyMan
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- New Scotland
Does that small a charge fill the case worth a damn? Seems like there should be a whack of space left over. Might be interesting to try as the Old Man has an 8 pounder of 15 and doesn't load anything with it. I could burn through that with my Rigby.
Did the guy with the Charles Atlas pipes choke that bear out? He makes the bear appear tiny. lol
First, MTM - Nice bear and congratulations.
Here is the first one. This one a member of our party's son on his first dedicated bear hunt. He wounded this one and my partner and I went in after it. There was a good blood trail but why do they go into the thickest sh$t they can find?
Anyway we were nosing through, visibility 20 to 50 feet. I caught a sillouette of this guy at about 30 feet. He was looking right at me from behind a fallen tree and some bushes. He came around the root ball and turned toward me and I put one through his lungs.
He looked like he was picked up anf thrown against a tree behind him. Twitched twice and expired. Double lung, lungs and thoracic cavity appeared to have been turned into goo.
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The second one I also finished at about 50 yards. Took two steps, rolled over kind of twitched twice and died. Again the exit hole was m,aybe an inch with the goo inside where the lungs used to be.
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Both bears died very quickly once they had ingested the A Frame.
Hey MTM, nice bear. I will be putting around that area on my dirt bike for the last two weeks of the season. I am happy to see you connected. Grizz sure love to hang out in creek beds.
I've seen a few big ones way down low where you would never expect to see them.
I've seen a few big ones way down low where you would never expect to see them.
Folks here is MTM with his beauty of a grizz he just got . He can tell the story cause I wasnt there but wished I was!!!
I liked Rel. 22 and H4831 in my Rigbys. 108 grs of Rel.22 pushed the 350 TSX at 2850 with good accuracy. Not max but getting pretty compressed. 15 is probably too fast but might make the 300 grainers pop out pretty good.
That pipes comment is too funny.
Yeah, the case is just filled to the point that there is no movement, when you shake a loaded case.
It shot reasonably accurately, in the old gun, before I got the McMillan stock.
I am expecting better accuracy, but maybe with some load development. Since I'm heading out Friday A.M., after nightshift, I don't have time to mess around with that.
BUM, my rifle was a .375H&H that got bored out and then the chamber reamed to take the .416RM cartridge. I've never measured the bore dimensions or anything technical like that, but when I began loading for it, I learned pretty quickly that I cannot get to 'max book' loads. I was hitting over max velocities, while still several grains away from listed max loads.
I guess you'd say it's 'tight', probably due to the way the bore job and reaming was done.
Like I said, these averaged 2375fps on the Chrony. Sure did the business on that bull moose I shot a few years ago.
I hit the range for a quick sighting in today. I didn't know what to expect, since I dropped the scope a couple of weeks ago, on the concrete floor. Banged it pretty good too. A Leopold Vari-X III 1.75-6X for interest sakes...
Anyway, I was using the 400gr Hornady IL RN, since I had more of them loaded than anything else. First shot was 2.5" to the right and the elevation was perfect. Whoa!
So I made one adjustment to move the crosshairs left and put 3 shots into 7/8".
Sorry I couldn't take pics cuz I buried my camera in my trailer...
Then I tried the 400gr Nosler Partitions and shot 3 rounds into 1.5". Two shots were within 1/2" and there was that old 'flyer'. Off to the right a good 1" from the other 2 shots. The barrel was getting pretty warm by then, but it's too stiff (I think) to have caused that from the heat. Maybe I pulled that one.
Anyway, it was an extremely economical sighting in session. The scope seemed like it was almost exactly where it had been prior to the gunsmithing job.
I'm heading miles into remote bush in the Swan Hills, solo camping trip out of the wall tent. Gonna spend a week up there... or less if the big bear shows himself.
Anyway, I was using the 400gr Hornady IL RN, since I had more of them loaded than anything else. First shot was 2.5" to the right and the elevation was perfect. Whoa!
So I made one adjustment to move the crosshairs left and put 3 shots into 7/8".
Sorry I couldn't take pics cuz I buried my camera in my trailer...
Then I tried the 400gr Nosler Partitions and shot 3 rounds into 1.5". Two shots were within 1/2" and there was that old 'flyer'. Off to the right a good 1" from the other 2 shots. The barrel was getting pretty warm by then, but it's too stiff (I think) to have caused that from the heat. Maybe I pulled that one.
Anyway, it was an extremely economical sighting in session. The scope seemed like it was almost exactly where it had been prior to the gunsmithing job.
I'm heading miles into remote bush in the Swan Hills, solo camping trip out of the wall tent. Gonna spend a week up there... or less if the big bear shows himself.
