HELP-Bringing in a scope back from the states???
- Thread starter grymt14
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US law is US law,if you get checked on their side of the line and you are in possession of export controlled items you are in trouble.You can rationalize it any way you want,you still risk being caught.There is NO grey area in this law,they will enforce it ,and yes people have been charged or denied reentry to the States,including some folks on this site.If you are aware of these laws and do get caught,well that's your choice.If you play with the bull,you're liable to get the horn.I buy Canadian. Mur
Here is what I got back from opticsplanet
Dear Grymt14,
Thank you for your email. I regret to inform you that we can not ship or assist in the shipment of Riflescopes to Canada.
Unfortunately, due to the U.S. Government Export Control Laws and Regulations, U.S. Companies are not allowed to ship or assist in the shipment of Riflescopes outside of the physical territory of the United States to Canada without proper licensing. I apologize, but at this time we would not be able to apply for the required licenses.
If you would to like to attempt to acquire the necessary license required to export Riflescopes to Canada please contact the Office Of Export Services at (949)660-0144 or (202)482-4011 www.census.gov/trade
For detailed description of our International Policy and Export Restrictions, please visit http://www.opticsplanet.net/our-policy.html#international.
Please note: U.S. Government Export Control Laws and Regulations prohibit us from exporting or assisting with the export of restricted items without proper licensing. We must comply with all existing U.S. Government Laws and Regulations.
If you have any further questions about our export policy, please do not hesitate to contact us by e-mail at Sales@OpticsPlanet.com or by phone at (847) 513-6201.
Best regards,
Dear Grymt14,
Thank you for your email. I regret to inform you that we can not ship or assist in the shipment of Riflescopes to Canada.
Unfortunately, due to the U.S. Government Export Control Laws and Regulations, U.S. Companies are not allowed to ship or assist in the shipment of Riflescopes outside of the physical territory of the United States to Canada without proper licensing. I apologize, but at this time we would not be able to apply for the required licenses.
If you would to like to attempt to acquire the necessary license required to export Riflescopes to Canada please contact the Office Of Export Services at (949)660-0144 or (202)482-4011 www.census.gov/trade
For detailed description of our International Policy and Export Restrictions, please visit http://www.opticsplanet.net/our-policy.html#international.
Please note: U.S. Government Export Control Laws and Regulations prohibit us from exporting or assisting with the export of restricted items without proper licensing. We must comply with all existing U.S. Government Laws and Regulations.
If you have any further questions about our export policy, please do not hesitate to contact us by e-mail at Sales@OpticsPlanet.com or by phone at (847) 513-6201.
Best regards,
i tried to buy from them too but got an email saying they cancelled my order...at least you got a sales rep that knew what he's talking about, the guy that i talked to said that they can ship to canada but may just take longer cause of the permit
Yes, a friend was popped at a border crossing in BC,and I am aware of several other cases.I also know several people who have purchased scopes on Ebay and had them seized by US Customs.If you make it back to Canada Customs without being checked you are home free,but if Homeland Security or the USBS checks you you're toast.I have heard that Canada customs is sending people with no import permit back to the US side(where they will bust you),but I am not personally aware if this happening. Mur
Their merchandise was seized,and they spent a very uncomfortable 4 or 5 hours being interrogated by USBS(not US Customs).They were told that their vehicle could be seized,that they could be kept in jail for 48hrs,and then deported,and that their names would go on the US non entry list.As far as I know neither has tried to reenter the States.They made it very clear that it was a throughly uncomfortable experience.The items in question were a couple of scopes and some rifle brass.At the time they were unaware that these items were controlled. Mur
Ive heard the above happening to a few people some have crossed again with no problems (with thier passport so not sneaking in)
as for going to jail yes its possible but the most likely is the above if you were going/trying to send the stuff to iran or somthing your going to go to jail but the average us/canadian hunter/sportshooter is going to lose the stuff and be banned
just remember guys is AMERICAN law they dont mess around you can face millions in fines and years in jail IF they decide to go for you when your caught...do you feel lucky????
Yep, there was a person who posted here last year that came from a show in the US and only had items in a "grey" area, a holster and a couple MINOR parts and unrelated supplies.
They seized ALL his purchases and sent him on his way. A few weeks later he was flying on a business trip to the US and found out he was banned from entering the US for life......
Also, Midway USA was fined $330k for exporting 254 scopes without permits, and Zeiss USA was fined $10k for shipping 10 scopes to Zeiss Canada without permits. Of course these fines don't include the legal fees paid by the companies or having the State Department make them bend over while auditing ALL their records.
The US is VERY quick to ban people from entering the US and is one of the most common things they do because it is easy and needs little to no paperwork on their end.
Related with that guy mentioned by someone above who was banned for life in USA, even a holster is not allowed ??? A holster is just a piece of leather. There is no gun part, no reloading stuff and no optic.
I didn't know that a holster is not allowed but I'm happy to learn new things everyday.
I didn't know that a holster is not allowed but I'm happy to learn new things everyday.
- Location
- calgary alberta
I do not know the fellows name, but did watch him loose a new Vette and get taken away in cuffs at Coutts 2 years ago over about $200.00 worth of loading components.
At that time I did not realize it was a permanent seizure and persona non grata deal, but did find out some of the details a couple of weeks later when I crossed there again.
I am not up on what newer Vettes command but it seems like real poor value to me if 1 gets snagged. And it makes me think that taking my X5 stateside is less than likely to happen despite the fact that I have permits for everything coming across the 49th. A simple clerical error or typo is all they need to enact a seizure.
At that time I did not realize it was a permanent seizure and persona non grata deal, but did find out some of the details a couple of weeks later when I crossed there again.
I am not up on what newer Vettes command but it seems like real poor value to me if 1 gets snagged. And it makes me think that taking my X5 stateside is less than likely to happen despite the fact that I have permits for everything coming across the 49th. A simple clerical error or typo is all they need to enact a seizure.
With all the facts posted time and time again here on nutz -
All the idiots who think pre 911 -
Can you speak english please
- Location
- AB foothills
Can you speak english please
What about his post is so hard to understand? I speak english and can read and understand what he is saying...
Holsters aren't regulated. CBP simply didn't like the fact that they went to a gun show and bought some stuff.
Along with the holster, I said there were some firearm related supplies. The people weren't charged or anything, only the goods seized and the people sent on their way.
What are your going to do? argue with CBP? You are correct that the CBP guys were WRONG, but as you know that isn't enough to stop them. CBP has sweeping powers, they are not like police where they need to go to the DA to confirm the charges. They simply seize and ban. As a Non Resident Alien in the US, you have no rights. VERY easy for them to do, with minimal to no paperwork.
BTW, the article mentioned the person who was banned has taken it up with the US to get his ban dropped, but it is going to take time and $$$$$$$$.
OK, now I got it. The holster was in the same bunch of other items. I misunderstud. My bad !
Thanx for make it clear for me.
And about optics, I have to say that being a truck driver and crossing the border every week I was checked a lot of times and I do have a binocular with me at all time. Is a very usefull tool that help a lot when I'm lost on the streets or I need to know before reaching an intersection what is there. I avoided a lot of times wrong turns and other unpleasant situations.
I've been check by USA and Canadian Border Officers hundreds of times and nobody has nothing to say about my 10$ binocular. Well 10$ spent 15 years a go and never got any troubles.
I like to buy from Canada gun related stuff to support local shops but this topics here on the forum are very usefull to know about things before doing something illegal. Even sometimes questions are annoying and the same questions are asked multiple times is good that someone take time to answer.
I love this place.
Thanx to all of u.
Thanx for make it clear for me.
And about optics, I have to say that being a truck driver and crossing the border every week I was checked a lot of times and I do have a binocular with me at all time. Is a very usefull tool that help a lot when I'm lost on the streets or I need to know before reaching an intersection what is there. I avoided a lot of times wrong turns and other unpleasant situations.
I've been check by USA and Canadian Border Officers hundreds of times and nobody has nothing to say about my 10$ binocular. Well 10$ spent 15 years a go and never got any troubles.
I like to buy from Canada gun related stuff to support local shops but this topics here on the forum are very usefull to know about things before doing something illegal. Even sometimes questions are annoying and the same questions are asked multiple times is good that someone take time to answer.
I love this place.
Thanx to all of u.
