anchor a bear

Double lung anchors them well, busted shoulders anchors them, brain shot, etc. The odd one will run, but that one would have run with or with out lungs or shoulders.

I have found the double lung to pretty humane - especially with a 416...
 
mikeystew said:
Sounds like you enjoyed the sound of suffering. i love hunting but man... i don't get why you would even bother to write that. the first rule of a hunters code of ethics should be to make humaine kills and have respect for the prey, not boast about how they squealed while they were dying.
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If you're 15' up in a treestand, hunting with bow and arrow and you drill a bear, what do they do? React to the shot, usually rolling, jumping, then they run like hell, 40-50 yards. Before the hunter really has time to climb down, you will often hear that 'death moan'.

I've seen many video taped hunts just like that. As a hunter, that sound just confirms that your bear is mortally hit.

Where's the ethics problem!?
 
mikeystew said:
Sounds like you enjoyed the sound of suffering. i love hunting but man... i don't get why you would even bother to write that. the first rule of a hunters code of ethics should be to make humaine kills and have respect for the prey, not boast about how they squealed while they were dying.
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"Squealing while they were dying", as you so eloquently put it, actually means it was a very ethical shot and a sure sign the bear is dying.

Read up on animal behaviour before typing BS. Cape buffalo have a similar routine, a death bellow.
 
yup i didnt find that excessive, i shoot and wait to hear the wheeze of death after i wack a deer moose , assuming i can get my hear trate back in the single digits. that sound is a relief that all your preparation paid off.

so back to my original topic , seems most don't like the idea of a neck shot and double shoulders seem to be the way to go. like i posted earlier i used that tactic and it work but ruined meat. i have since loaded some tougher bullets so the expansion isn't so violent . apparently sierras are designed for much higher impact, and these should hold up well when hitting bone

nice test on 215 sierra GK's
https://www.24hourcampfire.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php/topics/3864644/5
 
I've shot a fair amount of bears and the only thing I like better than a double shoulder shot is a quartering away shot where I can blow through the boiler AND hit a far shoulder. This is actually my favorite shot for all big game.

I have also killed black bears stone dead with a double shoulder shot from a .308 win shooting 180's, despite the fact that this does not seem like it would be an instant kill shot.

I consider myself a bit of a blessed man in that I have never had to hear crying from either a bear or a moose, whether shot in an ideal manner, or not. :redface:
 
Right behind the ear or the neck with the .358 Winny has anchored all of mine...I have never shot one past 50 yards...so I feel comfortable with head and neck shots
 
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I also like dropping them in their tracks. That way, you can get out of your stand right away and get to work without waiting. This way I don't get that creepy feeling of waiting for them to die and then tracking after dark all by myself.

Keeping that in mind, I use my 45-70 with heavy cast bullets. Broadside shots at 50 yds, and completely smashing both shoulders. I find this drops them dead in their tracks without so much as a twitch. This big bugger shown in my avatar fell face first in the dust and never moved. The 550 gr Crater cast bullet completely destroyed both shoulders. Ever since then, I've never looked back. I think most agree black bear are easy to kill. However I feel if you want to drop them at the bait pile, large calibres with slow moving tough bullets work great. I've also had great success with my 358 Winchester. Good luck!
 
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mikeystew said:
Sounds like you enjoyed the sound of suffering. i love hunting but man... i don't get why you would even bother to write that. the first rule of a hunters code of ethics should be to make humaine kills and have respect for the prey, not boast about how they squealed while they were dying.
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You know absoluely nothing about me or my ethics so stfu.

The crying is part of black bear hunting. If you can't deal with it, don't hunt bears. Those were 3 of the most humane one shot kills you can make on a bear, or did you miss the part there 2 of them went less than 10 yards. They were anchored and all died within my eyesight.
 
Kenny_G2 said:
You know absoluely nothing about me or my ethics so stfu.

The crying is part of black bear hunting. If you can't deal with it, don't hunt bears. Those were 3 of the most humane one shot kills you can make on a bear, or did you miss the part there 2 of them went less than 10 yards. They were anchored and all died within my eyesight.
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I apologize to you and wonksy for my comments yesterday, i was in a shyte mood. it was day 2 with no smokes and for some reason i took it the wrong way... but theres really no excuse. you are right, i don't even know either of you and sometimes i need to know when to keep my F'n mouth shut. i'll slink off with my tail between my legs now... :redface:
 
Dropping a bear in its tracks

My favourite for dropping bears in their tracks is a big chunk of pure lead. Dropped one in its tracks with a 500 gr. soft lead out of a 45-110. Opened a 3" hole on the way out, just through ribs.
 
mikeystew said:
I apologize to you and wonksy for my comments yesterday, i was in a shyte mood. it was day 2 with no smokes and for some reason i took it the wrong way... but theres really no excuse. you are right, i don't even know either of you and sometimes i need to know when to keep my F'n mouth shut. i'll slink off with my tail between my legs now... :redface:
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OK, my response might have been a bit harsh as well, but I do hold all animals I harvest with the utmost respect.
 
bearkilr said:
Hitting the neck isn't what you're after, that's easy. You need to hit the spine, which you can't see.

Put a bullet high through neck meat or low through the esophagus/windpipe and you won't have to worry about a tough retrieval, you won't find him.
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Yup!

Shooting a bear over bait is not something I've ever done so can't comment there, but bears will move their heads and that will continue to create issues for the head/neck shot....I have done it...I just don't recommend it.

Tracking an animal that is breathing out the side of his head or neck is overrated. Worse part is you may not know that you have done it. :(

Bears make unhappy noises when they die.....Comes with the shirt. :p
I recommend the experience.
 
low through the esophagus/windpipe and you won't have to worry about a tough retrieval, you won't find him.
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The fellow who pushed, with his hands, a broadhead into a sow grizzlies wind pipe last year found this to be true. he reports hearing the change in sound and a later intensive search by a number of experienced men turned up no dead bear. Over a period of days dead bears are far easier to find then live wounded bears.

P.S anyone with skin too thin to get past disturbing auditory indications of life's passing should'nt hunt/snare bunnies! When I was 8 a hare ran into a snare at my feet as I walked home in the dark. Nothing will ever top that for bothersome! On the plus side it directly contributed to my parents issuing an ATT for my 22 cooey. (P.S these were the good old days and I would'nt suggest your kids gets found alone in the bush toting a firearm now adays........ but your honour they were only 22shorts and he had'nt had any sugar since yesterday.............)
 
Never shot a bear for a trophy, but have a few pest bears. The head is a good way to ""anchor"" them if you are not interested in getting the skull scored for the books.
 
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