CZ 858-2 Tactical VS Ruger Mini-30
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nuh uh!
Mind giving me a link to back that up?
My mom can out shoot you with a cz858.
Perhaps you can only shoot as good as an SKS?
Don't blame the tool for the failings of the operator.
I have had two mini 30's and one was brutally inaccurate while the other was capable of better accuracy that I could provide. Both were completely reliable. I have had numerous mini 14/30's and have never had a jam. My current CZ858 is reliable and quite accurate considering my eyes are not getting any younger. You cannot go wrong with either. I shot a nice buck with my CZ last year and am planning on using it again. If the choice is too much to bear, buy both. The CZ has more of a pi$$ off a lieberal factor while the mini comes closer to appearing as a hunting rifle. I agree that the 7.62x39 is an excellent deer cartridge.
Nowhere have I said these rifles are perfect. I mentioned Neit Arms does bolt tabbing. Did you actually read any of my posts?
FWIW, this "sloppy trigger slack" is a new one to me and I know dozens of guys with 858s.
Tell us more about this ####ty dealer that you wouldn't trust to return a faulty rifle to.
Mind giving me a link to back that up?
My mom can out shoot you with a cz858.
Contact your dealer.
I would'nt use a SKS for hunting again, for 2 reasons. The sights are crappy and its about 2-3 pounds heavier than my buddy's Mini-30. I have shot better groupings with a newer model Mini-30 than my 1950 SKS also.
Now I know that I can upgrade the sights on a SKS, and do a few things to make it a bit lighter, but at the end of the day, I can just buy a Ruger for $830 plus tax from Ellwood Epps. I know thats expensive, but its only about $150 more than the CZ, and the looks of a Stainless Steel Ruger pretty much justify's the extra $$$ spent over the CZ, atleast in my opinion.
I also know that the older Mini-14's that MR.T was shooting had those Barrels made out of rubber, but they are alot different now. I hear the Mini chambered in the newer 6.8spc can shoot 2" cirlces @100 yards. Thats plenty fine for taking a Deer in the Bush.
I know from seeing it with my own eyes, that a Mini-30 in 7.62x39mm will consistantly hit a 10 inch gong, freestanding from about 150 yards away 4 out of 5 times, and that one time, it was probably due to human error.
Now with all of that being said, I have pretty much made up my mind that I am going to get a Ruger, UNLESS you guys can convince me otherwise that the CZ is the better gun. I do already own a CZ75 handgun that I love, so I am very open to buying another CZ, but so far I am unconvinced that it is a better gun.
Now I know that I can upgrade the sights on a SKS, and do a few things to make it a bit lighter, but at the end of the day, I can just buy a Ruger for $830 plus tax from Ellwood Epps. I know thats expensive, but its only about $150 more than the CZ, and the looks of a Stainless Steel Ruger pretty much justify's the extra $$$ spent over the CZ, atleast in my opinion.
I also know that the older Mini-14's that MR.T was shooting had those Barrels made out of rubber, but they are alot different now. I hear the Mini chambered in the newer 6.8spc can shoot 2" cirlces @100 yards. Thats plenty fine for taking a Deer in the Bush.
I know from seeing it with my own eyes, that a Mini-30 in 7.62x39mm will consistantly hit a 10 inch gong, freestanding from about 150 yards away 4 out of 5 times, and that one time, it was probably due to human error.
Now with all of that being said, I have pretty much made up my mind that I am going to get a Ruger, UNLESS you guys can convince me otherwise that the CZ is the better gun. I do already own a CZ75 handgun that I love, so I am very open to buying another CZ, but so far I am unconvinced that it is a better gun.
Ok, you're an ######X. This is now established.
Too long for certain shooting positions? Pray tell. Which ones?
Which shooting positions are they too long for?
Please, pretty please with sugar on top. Which positions? Do you even know what a shooting position is?
Hint: praying mantis is not one of them. Neither is lotus blossom.
Yeah, it's an insult.
However the previous post shows that you have a number of military rifles and yet have never done anything with them but shoot from the bench. I'll let the universe decide who here is the wannabe.
OK forget the Wanabee stuff
Facts?
Perhaps you are confused. New firearm? No. New manufactured from surplus parts. Yes.
- So why did you buy from them?
- Fixed it yourself, eh? So that 30 minutes worth of work was a big hassle, eh?
- Your SKS? Really? So how many minutes of hassle did you put into rebuilding that trigger group?
Interestingly enough all these problems of yours are caused by loose components on the trigger group pins. Also interesting is that a guy with a knife, a rock, and an empty 9mm case can fix all these problems in 10 minutes.
Okay, since it's so awful, I'll give you $100 for that poor broken down CZ of yours. Obviously you have no use for it.
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I'll give you $150
-edit- I'll give you $269.99.. go get yourself a SKS. Because I'm a nice guy, you can even take your pick out of the pile of SKS's that you sell. I'd take your wobbly-triggered VZ any day. 5 mins later it'll be a stellar rifle. A s**t poorly functioning rifle for a superior sks. How can you say no? Where do you want the EMT sent... ?
I've never had any issues with any of my VZ's that didn't involve extreme abuse to try and induce a failure. All have shot, operated and handled better than any sks I have owned.
-edit- I'll give you $269.99.. go get yourself a SKS. Because I'm a nice guy, you can even take your pick out of the pile of SKS's that you sell. I'd take your wobbly-triggered VZ any day. 5 mins later it'll be a stellar rifle. A s**t poorly functioning rifle for a superior sks. How can you say no? Where do you want the EMT sent... ?
I've never had any issues with any of my VZ's that didn't involve extreme abuse to try and induce a failure. All have shot, operated and handled better than any sks I have owned.
I never used an mini30 before but:
it's easy to scope.
the iron sights look like they would function better.
For plinking though I wouldn't trade my vz for a mini30.
I also got a vz the cheap way. Or else I would only have an sks.
If anyone cares, I like the vz better than the sks. It just feels better.
it's easy to scope.
the iron sights look like they would function better.
For plinking though I wouldn't trade my vz for a mini30.
I also got a vz the cheap way. Or else I would only have an sks.
If anyone cares, I like the vz better than the sks. It just feels better.
I have my cz since 1 year now. Almost 1000 rds fired and function flawlessly
With the right parts, the cz its not so hard to scope. I'm not interested in another rig. Speaking Ruger mini 30, what bore they have? .308 or .311? And do they like surplus ammo? Just curious thx.
With the right parts, the cz its not so hard to scope. I'm not interested in another rig. Speaking Ruger mini 30, what bore they have? .308 or .311? And do they like surplus ammo? Just curious thx.
I have my cz since 1 year now. Almost 1000 rds fired and function flawlessly
With the right parts, the cz its not so hard to scope. I'm not interested in another rig. Speaking Ruger mini 30, what bore they have? .308 or .311? And do they like surplus ammo? Just curious thx.
Ruger has used .311 bores on the Mini 30 since 1992, according to what I've found.
After shooting about a half crate of ammo my Sloppy trigger slack problem came about.
I had side to side play and would not engage "thingy" to fire the striker. . It would fire if I pulled the trigger back and to the right but never fire when pulled straight back. I did manage to get it fixed by adding a small washer to the trigger pin assembly.
You sold a gun that was a piece of crap with a "sloppy trigger group" and "potential safety problems" as you say it? Wow.. I hope you let him know and gave him a deal.
Too bad... you could have gotten yourself a brand spankin new kick arse SKS.
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