Looking for Advise on STI GP6

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Hallo,

right now i'm in the process of getting my RPal in the Mail soon.
I join'd a Club and now i'm looking to by my first Handgun.

From what i read i like the STI GP6 and of course others , but how does it feel in your Hands ? Is it really that slippery when you hold it ? How is the Grip Length for medium to big Hands?

Is it worth to take the GP6-C over the normal Model ?

And last but not least is there a Possibility here in Toronto to hold one actually in my own Hands to see if i like the Feel and Handling? Maybe some Member here in Toronto has one and can help me to make my decision .

Thanks a lot for your Help
 
I've got the GP6.

I have relatively large hands, and it feels good to me. I prefer it's grip to the SP01, and it's far better than the Glock's feel in my hands. YMMV.

As for the GP6-C, I would probably pass. The adjustable rear sight frankly is a disappointment. For the price difference, I'd order the GP6 and the optional fiber optic front sight, and Dynamic fixed rear, plus the big button mag catch.
 
It's a really comfortable gun to hold and to shoot, recoils well. Some of the best shooters in IPSC Alberta use one. Not my cup of tea, but they're a joy to shoot, even if you must keep it a bit cleaner than most normal Browning type lug system pistols.
 
Not my cup of tea, but they're a joy to shoot, even if you must keep it a bit cleaner than most normal Browning type lug system pistols.

Mine is thriving on abuse and neglect. I just cleaned it this weekend. I shot the Waterloo, Sharon, Haliburton, Burlington and the Jan Guelph matches without so much as wiping it off.
 
How would the GP6 compare to an SIG 226 in Grip Length and overall Feel ?

Shot a 226 today and hated the DA pull .

Does somebody has a GP6 i could try here in Toronto or GTA ? I would really appreciate that !
 
GP6 feels more ergonomic. The sig is a nice gun i have had two. The the grip feels blockier, and fatter. I would certainly buy another Sig, I do not think I'd trade my GP6 for it though.
 
Mine is thriving on abuse and neglect. I just cleaned it this weekend. I shot the Waterloo, Sharon, Haliburton, Burlington and the Jan Guelph matches without so much as wiping it off.

That's cool. I can't believe you wouldn't clean your gun before a match, it's pretty much the only time I make sure it's spic and span. Anyways, at a local range that rented out a GP6, I tried to shoot the range model (after purchasing another one) and I couldn't rack the slide. We finally figured out that we had to push in on the ejection port "locking lug" to coax it to turn and release from the slide so the slide would come back. This was due to increased friction caused by muck in the rotaty mechanism. The range officer indicated the gun hadn't even seen 1000 rds since it's last cleaning and I thought that was pretty light for the gun to fail so drastically due to dirtiness. Of course, they don't clean their guns between every client coming in, so it's not unusual for a pistol to see much more than 1000 rds in a day.

The following week, the gun missing and the range officer indicated it had actually exploded somehow.

I'm glad yours is working so well for you. I prefer the old fashion browning style lug-slide method.
 
That's cool. I can't believe you wouldn't clean your gun before a match, it's pretty much the only time I make sure it's spic and span. Anyways, at a local range that rented out a GP6, I tried to shoot the range model (after purchasing another one) and I couldn't rack the slide. We finally figured out that we had to push in on the ejection port "locking lug" to coax it to turn and release from the slide so the slide would come back. This was due to increased friction caused by muck in the rotaty mechanism. The range officer indicated the gun hadn't even seen 1000 rds since it's last cleaning and I thought that was pretty light for the gun to fail so drastically due to dirtiness. Of course, they don't clean their guns between every client coming in, so it's not unusual for a pistol to see much more than 1000 rds in a day.

The following week, the gun missing and the range officer indicated it had actually exploded somehow.

I'm glad yours is working so well for you. I prefer the old fashion browning style lug-slide method.

Something else was up with that pistol.
Like Canuck223, mine usually goes several months between cleanings. With matches, league night and general farting around, it sees a fair bit of ammo. No problems at all. The only time I had trouble racking back the slide was at a match. My pistol got knocked out of my holster and landed in some soft, almost talcum powder like dirt. Showing clear for the RO was like pulling off a truck bumper :p .

(E) :cool:
 
How would the GP6 compare to an SIG 226 in Grip Length and overall Feel ?

Shot a 226 today and hated the DA pull .

Does somebody has a GP6 i could try here in Toronto or GTA ? I would really appreciate that !

You can try GP K100MK6 at Target Sports, it is the same frame, but you can get a wrong opinion - their pistol a bit abused and is shooting to the left. And DA/SA trigger on GP6 should be better. I also have GP K100MK6 and happy with it. Also i have old original K100 and don't want to sell it - i found that it is bit more accurate and has better machinery work.
P.S. DA is not strongest side of GP6, but good SA and excellent reset.
 
I was kinda interested in one we well. I've never handled one either but the grip looks like CZ's which fits great in my hand. someday i'll probably get one.
 
The following week, the gun missing and the range officer indicated it had actually exploded somehow.
Sorry, but that's Bulls**t. If any business in this country blew up an STI GP6 that they thought was the fault of the gun, they'd have had the gun here the next day looking for the lifetime warranty to get it fixed.

I locally have one of the worst abusers of all guns - my shooting partner, JS who shoots a GP6 for IPSC production division. We shoot up to 1000 rounds a week in IPSC practice, and he's not cleaning it each week. He only cleans his guns when they stop working. As he puts it "Once a year, whether it needs it or not." :D

His only failure so far has been the hammer breaking which STI knows about and readily replaces if you have a bad one.
 
His only failure so far has been the hammer breaking which STI knows about and readily replaces if you have a bad one.

Since I bought my first K100, and then it's replacement GP6, I've been following much of the internet chatter about the GP6.

The hammer occationally failing, and the slide stop pin creeping out to the left have been the only bugs I've seen mentioned.

On mine, the slide stop will very slowly creep, but it easily tapped back into place with the back of the trigger lock while bagging the gun. It's minor.

This has been the most reliable, trouble free gun I've owned in 20 years.
 
Now why the hell would anybody make up a story like that?!?

Well......Freedom Venture is the Importer/Warranty Department.......so if anyone was going to know about a failure.......I am betting they would!

Any chance the range dude was talking out his A$$!

Well, TSE, the parent company of Target Sports were the exclusive distributor of Grand Power pistols, right up until Grand Power signed a much bigger deal with STI. TSE haven't struck me as the type of folks who are going to go out of thier way to slag a product line, but under the circumstances, I'd be a tad put off and less than inclined to promote the product.

AFAIK, Target Sports had not the newer GP6, but the K100 Mark 6 in the rental counter.
 
Now why the hell would anybody make up a story like that?!?

It is simly just easier to say "it blew up" than going into a detail explanations as to what really happen, more often than not the person doesn't really know what really happen, Of course a normal person hears a story like, that they generally take it with a grain of salt, but on the internet forums there is always a few "chicken littles" feel the need to tell the masses the sky is falling ;)
 
Well, I personally bought two of these pistols... The first one had an issue where the mag release wasn't quite in the proper place so fully loaded magazines had to be slapped in WAY too hard and couldn't be taken back out without prying them out hard or racking a round into the chamber to take some of the pressure off the mag spring to lessen the friction on the mag release so the mag could come out. I took that pistol back to the counter and they called the CFO and changed my serial to another GP6, which now belonged to me. When I took this one on the range, I noticed when the slide was racked back, the slide release alone wouldn't release the slide unless you put substantially more pressure downwards on it than necessary (note the first pistol's slide release wasn't like that). I then took that one back to the counter and was put on a list for a third one. That's when I decided to play with the range model a bit more to be sure I really wanted this pistol and that's when the sticking slide issue came up, necessitating application of pressure through the ejection port to "release" the slide from the barrel and allow the slide to travel backwards. A quick field strip and rudimentary cleaning of the channel the lug travels through on the slide fixed the problem, but finding out less than 1000 rds had gone through the pistol had me go back to the counter and cancel my order for the third GP6 entirely. Instead I bought a CZ.

Maybe these were an early batch (they were, in fact, the first batch this store/range received) but the feeling I got was that quality control just wasn't there. They should have spotted the problem with the mag release and the problem with the slide release if they had put the pistol through it's paces before shipping it out.
 
Well, I personally bought two of these pistols... The first one had an issue where the mag release wasn't quite in the proper place so fully loaded magazines had to be slapped in WAY too hard and couldn't be taken back out without prying them out hard or racking a round into the chamber to take some of the pressure off the mag spring to lessen the friction on the mag release so the mag could come out. I took that pistol back to the counter and they called the CFO and changed my serial to another GP6, which now belonged to me. When I took this one on the range, I noticed when the slide was racked back, the slide release alone wouldn't release the slide unless you put substantially more pressure downwards on it than necessary (note the first pistol's slide release wasn't like that). I then took that one back to the counter and was put on a list for a third one. That's when I decided to play with the range model a bit more to be sure I really wanted this pistol and that's when the sticking slide issue came up, necessitating application of pressure through the ejection port to "release" the slide from the barrel and allow the slide to travel backwards. A quick field strip and rudimentary cleaning of the channel the lug travels through on the slide fixed the problem, but finding out less than 1000 rds had gone through the pistol had me go back to the counter and cancel my order for the third GP6 entirely. Instead I bought a CZ.

Maybe these were an early batch (they were, in fact, the first batch this store/range received) but the feeling I got was that quality control just wasn't there. They should have spotted the problem with the mag release and the problem with the slide release if they had put the pistol through it's paces before shipping it out.

I'm sorry, but frankly your experience with this gun doesn't suggest anything to me other than you may be a tad too dainty in handling one, and you got a dirty range gun.

Both of mine have worked fine, and your point about the slide stop is almost too funny for words. It's a slide stop, not a slide release. Although many people do thumb them down to release the slide, it's poor form.

Jaroslav designed this gun to release the slide with a sharp insertion of the magazine. It does it 100% of the time. In three years of competition, it's never let me down. If you order from the factory, and prefer the slide to lock open and remain open on mag insertion, they will cut the slide recesses deeper.

The magazine catch is a magazine catch. It holds full magazines tight. That's not a bad thing, unless you can't insert them to full lock. Like any new gun, the mag catch tip and the magazines cut out will work in after a bit.

My K100 was a bit less tolerant of dirt than the GP6, and as a result I switched to VV N320. I don't know what, if any dimentional changes happened from the GP K100 Mark 6 that Target was renting, to the GP6, but the current model just keeps on ticking.

I use a very small amount of grease on the roller cam, the front frame lugs, and that's it. Over oiling the chamber end of this gun could cause caking of fouling, and more problems than the oil would cure.
 
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