Glocks not so great anymore?????

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Well, I was just getting ready to make my next pistol purchase and I THOUGHT I had made a good choice on a Glock model 22....until I started researching threads on this site. It seems there are alot of negative comments these days about Glocks...Until now, I thought they were very reliable, stupid simple etc, which is why quite a few police departments use them. So what gives? Did Glock quality start going downhill recently or have they always been over-rated, or are negative comments on this site just exaggerated??? The reason I really wanted a Glock is because they are so light and suppose to be ultra reliable and if we were ever able to get CC it wouldn't feel like a brick on my hip( I don't care if you think we will never get CC, I like to think in terms of what if and if the SHTF pistol to pack). The Glock 22 is 22oz....that's great, the CZ SP01 Shadow(which I also will be buying) is almost double that. Now I know the CZ is probably a much more quality pistol than the Glock, but I definitely wouldn't like that weight on my hip. Opinions on this dilemma of mine are welcome...also opinions about other light weight autos that could be considered over the Glock would be helpful. Thanks.

RACKMAN
 
ive seen two gloks jam in my sort time of being around guns. one was in the mag, the other was handloads ad something to do with that.
love my smith and wesson m&p though.
 
preference.....the glock brand name has proven itself time and time again. there will always be haters....

get it, you will enjoy it. also, might consider the g17....easier on the pocket...9mm.
 
Glocks are extremely reliable and actually pretty accurate if you can shhot them well like I can. IF there's any doubt as to their reliability its with the g22 but certainly not the g17. The only negatives I usually hear and read about is the ergos or the fact that some ppl just don't like any pistol that's half plastic.
 
cjs said:
Everyone has an opinion - some people don't like polymer guns, some do - it is really a matter of opinion.
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+1.

I have shot a couple of Glocks, but prefer steel for my handguns. One of the Glocks was stock and the trigger sucked, one had some trigger mods done and it was superb. They are still simple, reliable and light, regardless of what anybody says. If it fits your hands well, shoot it lots and don't worry what internet warriors have to say about it.

Mark
 
Have shot a G17 since I started shooting in 1989 and have owned a 17 ever since, still have my very first one, now reaching 300,000 rounds. I can count the issues on one had I have had with any of the several G17's I have owned.
 
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I don't like glock or any other plastics and I'll never buy one!
I stay with what I like and proved all those years to be the best for my personal shooting needs - full metal pistols -
 
Cant speak for the G22, but my G17 has only ever had a couple of problems when my friend was trying it. He had a failure to feed because he didn't ensure all the cartridges were pressed all the way to the back of the mag.

I've heard limp wristing can cause failure to ejects, but I havent seen it on mine personally even after firing it 'rapper style' to see if I could get it to.
 
If you want a Glock, get one in the original 9mm, as they are more likely to give trouble-free service. If you have your heart set on .40, you would be better off going to another platform.

Glocks (in 9mm at least) serve their intended purpose well enough, but they just aren't everyone's cup of tea. Many people don't care for the ergonomics or the triggers. I think also that the obstreperousness of some of the Glock fanboys tends to provoke contrarian backlash.

Although I'm a satisfied CZ owner, I'm not sure I would call CZs far higher quality than Glocks. Either are good pistols; in fact there are few truly bad pistols on the market amongst the "name" brand makers. Also, keep in mind that the SP-01 Shadow is in a somewhat different niche than a Glock 22. They are marketed as more of a competition type gun.
 
Wolfstrack said:
I don't like glock or any other plastics and I'll never buy one!
I stay with what I like and proved all those years to be the best for my personal shooting needs - full metal pistols -
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which proves my point....comes down to preference....
 
I don't like full size Glocks because of the poor ergonomics.

I'd much rather have a M&P than G17/G22.

I do have a 10mm compact on the way that I'm excited about! ;)
 
No no....you guys are all WRONG about the trigger...it's the operator....the trigger pull is great....;)
































At least that's what TDC would have you believe. Glad he's not here to pollute the thread. I feel better now.
 
mmattockx said:
It is going to be a lot more peaceful now that he is not with us anymore. We can argue about trigger pull all we want without the noise pollution getting in the way.:D

Mark
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So very true.:) Truth be known, I have shot a few Glocks and I think they are reliable and accurate..... would have no problem owning one. But that trigger leaves something to be desired.
 
Out of 12 handguns I have owned in the last couple years of having my PAL the G17 is the only one I currently own! Too many people handle the gun in the shop, and never actually spend any time shooting it! I agree that when you first pick it up and compare it with some other pistols it feels a little strange, and even uncomfortable. After a box of ammo and some tiny groups on paper I was convinced! If you are used to single action trigger, then the Glock trigger is a learning curve and some get frustrated with their groups usually not being on target, and give up! I absolutely love the G17 and it just points naturally in my hand! Another issue is some shooters really never learn to grip a gun properly, wrapping their fingers around the grip instead of placing it properly in the web of ones hand.

Now as far as reliability goes there is nothing wrong with any of them! G22 or G17n whatever I simply don't believe the rumour mill! You have to remember there is probably more G17's and G22's out there than any other pistol on the market! Of course there will be issues!
 
The G22 wouldn't be on top of my list of "most reliable Glocks". The G17 probably would.

I agree that if what you really want is a .40, the Glock - at least up to Gen 3 - is probably not the best and I would go for an M&P40 instead, or wait and see how the Gen 4s are.

Most of the people here who bag on Glocks will say one of the following:

1) I hate plastic pistols

2) they don't fit my hand

Neither of those is really a problem with the gun..."fits my hand" is related more to what you've spent your time with than some innate body mechanics issue in my experience. If you have spent all your time shooting Berettas, a Glock will feel funny. If you have spent all your time shooting Glocks, a Smith revolver will feel funny.

I rarely see the anti-Glock types saying things like, "the trigger bar is too exposed and is a potential source of problems in some environments" or other actual complaints based on the design or function of the pistol.

Remember that anyone can write an opinion on the internet, and you don't necessarily know whether it's coming from someone who will put a couple hundred rounds a year through their gun or tens of thousands. All the time I see statements like "I put 200 flawless rounds through my ###XX gun, it's awesome". That's actually not bad...much worse is "I have never had it jam on me" from the same guy. You don't know he's only run 200 rounds through it and he doesn't know enough to know that's meaningless data.

In conclusion, I really don't recommend personal testimonials on open forums as a method of assessing gun quality. You will get all kinds of garbage information and it's hard to separate the wheat from the chaff.

I prefer to look up the opinions of guys who are either top list trainers who see tens of thousands of rounds fired through various types of guns every single month, or are armourers for large military or police organizations who burn a lot of ammo. Those are the guys who REALLY know what works and what doesn't.
 
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