Wound and never recover A LOT also.
long range shooting
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Wound and never recover A LOT also.
Therefore, they are going to wound a lot. A very poor shot will miss more than he wounds and a good shot will wound more than he misses. Those who walk with the angels will never miss anything. Most of those are beginners or bull####ters.
I'd suggest that the one box a year hunter misses a lot, the new 300 Ultramag shooter misses more, and the unpracticed bow hunter misses all the time.
On the other hand the well practiced hunter seldom effs up a shot.
Murphy gets involved in everything so chit will happen, but a guy committed to hitting will seldom disappoint.
Every animal I have wounded eventually made the trip to my freezer.
Wounded animals leave evidence...Noobs tend to grind it underfoot.
Not saying I will never loose an animal or that wounded game can always be found, but most wounded animals are lost as a result of stupidity or inexperience.
Perhaps you can dig up an article or two from a gun rag. Might help clear the confusion.
I have also found every wounded animal. Some in the form of grizzly bear, wolverine and raven crap.
Sadly that's very true
Cannot argue that one bit and will not try.But that does not mean we throw up our hands and shrug. When there's a point to be made about this, we make the point and we're none too subtle about it.
Perhaps slowly, very very slowly we move toward the state where hunters are seen as professionals in society (not in the aspect of making a living but in expertise) and behave in a professional manner.
I've always thought that the Europeans and perhaps the Scandinavians (sp) were way ahead of us in this regard. I do know that some of those nations do not allow anyone to purchase a hunting license until they can show some skill at arms first. What an excellent idea.
SO you want to shoot at 600 yds and beyond - fine - Take a means test and if you can do it say 9 out of 10 times with hunting ammo (no sighters, cold turkey) under existing field conditions (rough ground, no bench) and you shoot broadside. quartering toward, quartering away and you don't wound 9 out of 10 times - you be the man, here's your long range license - Congradulations!!
Sounds reasonable to me - What say you long range experts???
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I know at least 10-15 hunters that couldn't pass that test at 100 yards... more that could not do it offhand.
And I know a select few that could do it at 600 prone with a bipod.
And I know a select few that could do it at 600 prone with a bipod.
In addition to prone with bipod, some of us practice 600 yard prone off of backpack and seated from shooting sticks.
Sadly that's very true
But that does not mean we throw up our hands and shrug. When there's a point to be made about this, we make the point and we're none too subtle about it.
Perhaps slowly, very very slowly we move toward the state where hunters are seen as professionals in society (not in the aspect of making a living but in expertise) and behave in a professional manner.
I've always thought that the Europeans and perhaps the Scandinavians (sp) were way ahead of us in this regard. I do know that some of those nations do not allow anyone to purchase a hunting license until they can show some skill at arms first. What an excellent idea.
SO you want to shoot at 600 yds and beyond - fine - Take a means test and if you can do it say 9 out of 10 times with hunting ammo (no sighters, cold turkey) under existing field conditions (rough ground, no bench) and you shoot broadside. quartering toward, quartering away and you don't wound 9 out of 10 times - you be the man, here's your long range license - Congradulations!!
Sounds reasonable to me - What say you long range experts???
You really ought to lay down behind an ATRS tactical rifle. I am not kidding when I say 600 yard shots are dead easy. I bet you even get 9 out of 10 if you concentrate.
Even though the 300gr SMK is considered a "target" bullet it performs wonderfully on game.
An ATRS tactical rifle is a far cry from the OP's "regular hunting rifle".
If the shooters/hunters who frequent our range are anything of a cross section of hunters , I wouldn't wager anything on any of them making a lethal shot on a game animal at 600 with any calculable reliability. If there is any chance of not making the shot - why take it?
If the shooters/hunters who frequent our range are anything of a cross section of hunters , I wouldn't wager anything on any of them making a lethal shot on a game animal at 600 with any calculable reliability. If there is any chance of not making the shot - why take it?
Yes, with 4 different cartridge regular hunting rifles and 1 custom tactical rifle..
