Take a shotgun with you and do what YOU think is right if/when/should the need arise and then keep it to yourself. Let the CGN bear control 'experts' self-flagelate over the thought that you did or did not take their advice. Then everybody can go home safe and happy.
Nuisance Bears
- Thread starter Rusty Shackleford
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NB is the only province I know of where more 'hippies' hunt then do 'squares' LOL.
.......Greatfuldead tour till moose season and then time to 'chill' before going to deer camp LOL..........
Been a while since I was there but I got a few pics of hunter orange over tie dye and a moose dragging behind a VW.
For many years here in BC we shot them as vermin. No regulations protecting them, whatsoever.
It is interesting to note that during that time I never heard of a nuisance bear, and I would be extremely hard put to find, or hear of, a black bear attack on a human.
It is interesting to note that during that time I never heard of a nuisance bear, and I would be extremely hard put to find, or hear of, a black bear attack on a human.
PerrysGunShop
Expired Business Member
Just to clarify, the bears I mentioned were all classed as nuisance bears and called 'known offenders' by the MNR, who had given prior permission to dispatch them if necessary. I concur that a clean cottage area is a helluva good place to start.
We used to have a problem with bears at the restaurant I worked at in Haliburton county a couple years ago (Dorset, Ontario...I'll bet you can guess which restaurant it was 
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I got quite a fright in the late spring when taking the garbage out at the end of the night. I came around the corner of an outbuilding with a large bag of kitchen garbage to find a LARGE sow in the process of ripping top off of the the steel bear proof bin. "HEY!" says I. She stops ripping the bin apart and jumps down to the ground, closing the distance between us to about 15 feet. I didn't like the way she was rumbling and pawing. Then, peripheral vision shows me her cub, about 6 feet to my left next to the grease bin. "HOLY F*%K!" I said, throwing the bag of garbage in her general direction and booked it back inside. I went out later, and the bag of garbage was gone. This was my closest encounter, but one of many by the staff at the restaurant. I also had the opportunity to watch a large boar jump on the grease bin until it tipped, and kept slurping away at the oil despite being hit with a large block of maple firewood. Pretty common occurence in northern Ontario, but I have to stress the point that she was NOT afraid of me.
The boss had called the MNR numerous times, and they had attempted to live trap on the property and surrounding property, with no success. Apparently, they're to smart to walk into the gian cake and flip the switch. She asked me if i could "take care of the problem" if it happened again. Sure, I said. She asked me what kind of gun i would use, and i told her that one good shot from my .308 would probably solve the problem of one bear. She didn't want the noise, though, and requested that i might use my crossbow. My reply? Not a f*#%in chance. 10 yards from the ground in the dark with a pissed off momma with cubs? Might take her a half hour to die after being shot? No thanks....
Bottom line, in my opinion, if there is a bear in the yard, you can't otherwise frighten it off, and you have reason to fear damage or injury to yourself, other people, or your property, then blast away. I know my father and father in law had dispatched dozens of problem bears in the past, and this reasoning worked well enough for them. Just make sure to phone the mnr afterwards to let them know, "Hey, come get this dead bear off of my lawn."
) I got quite a fright in the late spring when taking the garbage out at the end of the night. I came around the corner of an outbuilding with a large bag of kitchen garbage to find a LARGE sow in the process of ripping top off of the the steel bear proof bin. "HEY!" says I. She stops ripping the bin apart and jumps down to the ground, closing the distance between us to about 15 feet. I didn't like the way she was rumbling and pawing. Then, peripheral vision shows me her cub, about 6 feet to my left next to the grease bin. "HOLY F*%K!" I said, throwing the bag of garbage in her general direction and booked it back inside. I went out later, and the bag of garbage was gone. This was my closest encounter, but one of many by the staff at the restaurant. I also had the opportunity to watch a large boar jump on the grease bin until it tipped, and kept slurping away at the oil despite being hit with a large block of maple firewood. Pretty common occurence in northern Ontario, but I have to stress the point that she was NOT afraid of me.
The boss had called the MNR numerous times, and they had attempted to live trap on the property and surrounding property, with no success. Apparently, they're to smart to walk into the gian cake and flip the switch. She asked me if i could "take care of the problem" if it happened again. Sure, I said. She asked me what kind of gun i would use, and i told her that one good shot from my .308 would probably solve the problem of one bear. She didn't want the noise, though, and requested that i might use my crossbow. My reply? Not a f*#%in chance. 10 yards from the ground in the dark with a pissed off momma with cubs? Might take her a half hour to die after being shot? No thanks....
Bottom line, in my opinion, if there is a bear in the yard, you can't otherwise frighten it off, and you have reason to fear damage or injury to yourself, other people, or your property, then blast away. I know my father and father in law had dispatched dozens of problem bears in the past, and this reasoning worked well enough for them. Just make sure to phone the mnr afterwards to let them know, "Hey, come get this dead bear off of my lawn."
Really? the bear stuck in my tree last night with a barking dog at the bottom of it may disagree.
Only if you can teach your dog to run away on comand
I thought they generally pestered bears and had bears follow them back to the owner??
Only if poorly trained, a well trained dog can be a huge benefit when dealing with bears.
Here in ontario they're becoming quite the problem these black bears. My friend has a cottage in the Kawartha's (about 2.5 hrs north east of Toronto) and they quite regularly have been seeing black bears in the yard and on the road coming into the cottage. The main issue is that there are families in the area with young children who are outside playing. Also sow and cubs have been spotted quite regularly as well which obviously poses a serious issue if because they don't seem to be overly frightened of humans. As far as blackie attacks there have been a few in ontario this year already.
Time for the spring bear hunt to be brought back IMO
Dorian Gray
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
First of all, I'm not wishing a black bear attack on anybody. Let me get this straight. What i am glad about is that people are seeing them rather frequently in the muskokas/cottage country. I live about 6 hours north of there and we've been dealing with this problem for at least 10 years but we don't have the population (read: votes) to have any real sway in this matter. Maybe if more people see them down south then it may have an actual impact on the matter of the spring bear hunt being reinstated.
As for the OP, bring the shotgun. If you have to shoot, don't hesitate. Some folks here have said that running into your cottage and playing cards is the right way to go. That very well may be the case in a specific situation but just last week a guy i know of had the same thing happen to him. He ran inside and locked up the doors. Then the bears (there were at least 2 of them) decided to break down the doors and come inside to see him. One made it halfway inside before the lead started to fly. The other managed to get away unscathed. Now this guy has to replace 2 doors and get new jeans.
I guess to sum up everybodys posts here it would be to make sure your camp is clean of garbage, if you see one make lots of noise, throw anything within reach at the bear, and finally, only if you have to, plug em! Have fun on your trip.
Dorian
As for the OP, bring the shotgun. If you have to shoot, don't hesitate. Some folks here have said that running into your cottage and playing cards is the right way to go. That very well may be the case in a specific situation but just last week a guy i know of had the same thing happen to him. He ran inside and locked up the doors. Then the bears (there were at least 2 of them) decided to break down the doors and come inside to see him. One made it halfway inside before the lead started to fly. The other managed to get away unscathed. Now this guy has to replace 2 doors and get new jeans.
I guess to sum up everybodys posts here it would be to make sure your camp is clean of garbage, if you see one make lots of noise, throw anything within reach at the bear, and finally, only if you have to, plug em! Have fun on your trip.
Dorian
umm, let everyone in the area know it was there and 15 minutes after bringing the dog in the bear booked it outta here. so, helpful.Maybe if you are Carrie Hunt
..... not so much for the average pooch.You aren't alone and the science supports you.
Definately.
(my emphasis added)
Definately.
Pack bears?????
Definately. Playing cards is safer for everyone than running and gunning with wild animals until the animals want in to play cards with you! The OP wanted to enjoy his weekend and relax, not have his own personal season of 24!
Last year, one summer afternoon I counted 16 bears in A Haliburton area public garbage dump! went back and brought kids back and we sat in the car and watched them. There were others in their cars doing the same.
Ontario is infested with blacks. It is inevitable that bad things will happen more often.
Ontario is infested with blacks. It is inevitable that bad things will happen more often.
Not to be a nitpicker, but that means every bear was considered a nuisance.... and the only ones that were well behaved as a result of the year round pressure were the ones who experienced poor shooting. Just saying.
