Krieger Lee-Enfield Barrel update

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With invaluable thanks to tiriaq and others, I was able to secure two examples of barrels from #4 Mk. 1 rifles and have submitted them to Krieger.

The Chief Barrelsmith, Helmut, is very excited about the project and has determined that they will be able to produce these barrels. He has secured an example of the rifle and they will be producing a couple of prototypes for tesng and evaluation.

After discussion with Krieger, and based on the poll to which you guys responed, the barrels will be Chromoly Steel, they will be true .303 (.311) and they will retain the ability to fix a bayonet.

These will not be a drop-in barrel per-se. they will be fully contoured and threaded, and they will be short chambered, but will have some extra material at the shoulder in order to allow you to peoperly time and headspace the barrel to your individual receiver. Installation will require you to have the gunsmith finish the chamber and bring it into proper indexing. The other feature that will be subject to optional modification is the bayonet lug system. The barrels WILL have the lugs, but if you want to actually fix a bayonet, some material will need to be removed ino order to finish the lugs to a functional degree. Krieger CAN do this, and I suspect that we may be able to make a fully functional bayonet lug from the factory as an option. I just thought people would be more interested in minimizing costs. (Post your comments here is you have any thoughts on this)

In the interest of keeping complexity and costs down, these will be a 4-groove and they will have a contemporary right-hand thread. These are not simply "replacement" barrels, these are true Match grade barrels .I expect that with these barrels attached, these rifles will be incredible shooters.

As to time-lines, well Krieger is swamped with orders right now, and the prototype process will be done over the summer. I expect we will have pricing and such at the end of summer and we can take orders.

Cheers!

ian
 
Krieger LE barrels? I would think they'd be more popular in 7.62 NATO?

AND PLEASE - DO NOT convert a No.4T to a Krieger bbl. That would DESTROY its history IMHO.
 
Krieger LE barrels? I would think they'd be more popular in 7.62 NATO?

Based on early comments, so did I, however, I did create a poll to get input and the decision was based on that poll. I have not ruled out the possibility of future alternate caliber choices, but this was the foot in the door.

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AND PLEASE - DO NOT convert a No.4T to a Krieger bbl. That would DESTROY its history IMHO.

I am definitely of two mindsets here... I certainly think rare examples and mint condition examples should be preserved for posterity, but these rifles are still in service in some countries, and are still enjoyed by many. They will never be valuable collectors items in the near future. I think having a match-capable LE to use in Service Rifle Competition would be the ultimate in cool!
 
As far as the bayonet lug question is concerned - I cannot see any reason to waste time finishing the lugs so a bayonet could actually be fitted. Anyone installing a match barrel on a No. 4 isn't going to be using the toad sticker.
Other calibres? There will likely be a market. .308 is obvious - maybe with a L39 or 42 contour? Other calibres are possible. .30-40 has been done. .307 Winchester would likely work nicely. Then there are all the .303 based wildcats. It is important to keep in mind that a sound No. 4 is at its limit in .308, and the official conversions were in 7.62 NATO which is not quite the same thing.
 
I felt the same way about the lugs, and to that end, I thought it would be a good compromise to have the lugs minus the final machining.

BTW, thanks again SO MUCH for you input and help with this project!!
 
So now I have to find a LE with a shi**y barrel so I can justify a new barrel. Oiy, my wallet is going to hurt. Damn this milsurp addiction :D

Lots of cheap, bubba'd, rebuildable No. 4s around. The expense will be in the barrel, and the fitting.
As described, installation will be very straightforeward. Once the original barrel is off, No. 4s are not hard to work on. With the short chambered barrel, it will not be necessary to search out different boltheads, and the chamber will be a nice SAAMI one, which will minimize case stretching, and excessive resizing.
A properly set up No. 4 WILL shoot.
Obtunded - I am most happy to assist in any way I can.
 
For a NEW barrel you had best have a FAT wallet. add to that what the gunsmith is going to charge to fit it.

Of course you folks up north are all rich anyway:D
 
For a NEW barrel you had best have a FAT wallet. add to that what the gunsmith is going to charge to fit it.

Of course you folks up north are all rich anyway:D


Hmmm. Since kriger hasn't even quoted a price, that it is a tad pessimistic.

Anyway, I will have all the details when the product is finalized, and I will do a group buy to keep costs down for all concerned.
 
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