when I say `cheap bulk 45 ACP ?` you say....

MudChucker

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I just bought another 1911 and I need to start loading 45 ACP - Im only interested in hearing a big bang and seeing a hole within 6 inches of where I was aiming so premium quality is not needed.

I`ll be loading with titegroup if that makes any difference.

Is there a CGN supporting vendor who sells big bulk boxes ?
 
If you are looking for projectiles, just put a want to buy ad in the exchange. 45 ACP is a perfect round for cast bullets. I am sure someone would make you some.
 
Better to start casting your own.Buying bullets cost a damn fortune because the shipping costs as much as the lead.
 
I was looking into the cost and such and discovered that shipping would be high... so unless I find someone local - the costs of shipping may be the investment in casting ...

what would be a fair price to offer someone so for home cast projectiles ?
 
As far as labor goes it takes about 4-5 hours to produce 1000 lubed bullets. Then you have to remember the labor involved in getting the lead, usually rendering wheel weights so add 1 hours worth of labor to that amount and the cost of the lead if they had to pay for it.

Last time I looked at a gunshop the average for 1000 was about 85.00 give or take a bit so if you can find someone that wants to work for $15.00 and hour locally then go for it.

You will find someone I am sure who will but honestly if you buy a cheap mold and do it yourself then you are better off in the long run.
 
@MudChucker,

One option is phoning Wholesale Sports in Winnipeg to see if they have Speer lead bullets in stock. They are around $70/500.

Another option is getting all your components shipped from Higginson Powders in Ontario (http://www.higginsonpowders.com). They have Frontier .45, 230 Grain CMJ bullets for around $130/1000 and Hornady Lead bullets for around $34/200. You'd probably have to order over 21 lb. of powder or maybe over 21 lb. of components to get FREE shipping. You'd probably save money in the long run ordering from Higginson but it would cost more all at once.

The cheapest option is still casting your own bullets out of wheel weights :).
 
Winterkrieg said:
@MudChucker,

One option is phoning Wholesale Sports in Winnipeg to see if they have Speer lead bullets in stock. They are around $70/500.

Another option is getting all your components shipped from Higginson Powders in Ontario (http://www.higginsonpowders.com). They have Frontier .45, 230 Grain CMJ bullets for around $130/1000 and Hornady Lead bullets for around $34/200. You'd probably have to order over 21 lb. of powder or maybe over 21 lb. of components to get FREE shipping. You'd probably save money in the long run ordering from Higginson but it would cost more all at once.

The cheapest option is still casting your own bullets out of wheel weights :).
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the free shipping only applies to powder... components and such still have shipping associated. But good idea, as their shipping on brass was pretty good.
 
I was in P&D yesterday and for the heck of it I decided to actually see how much cast bullets were. I haven't bought pistol bullets for about 20 years and when I bent down to see the price I about fell down. 500 .452 250gn fn bullets were 85.00. 85 bucks for 500, I couldn't believe it.

Buy the cheap 10 lb Lee pot and a tumble lube 6 cavity mold, the appropriate sizer kit and for the price of casting 1000 bullets you have now paid for your simple setup. From now on other than the price of lead (if you have to pay for it) is free.

If you find casting isn't for you then sell the stuff on ebay and get back most of your money and chalk it up to learning expenses.

If you find it more of a hobby than reloading and actually shooting like I do then you end up with a couple of 20 lb pots, 2 1/2 tons of lead, and over 125 molds to play with. :D
 
There are people who make a living by driving around different auto shops and picking up scrap metal... usually without paying the business owner / mechanics anything.....


Take acouple large sturdy buckets (with your name and # on them) to some sympathetic shops in your area, let the staff kow that your only interested in lead (wheel weights) and to call you when the bucket is full and you'll come pick it up and drop off a case of beer. some shops like midas will fill er up for you in a month or less.

:)
 
Boombb said:
There are people who make a living by driving around different auto shops and picking up scrap metal... usually without paying the business owner / mechanics anything.....


Take acouple large sturdy buckets (with your name and # on them) to some sympathetic shops in your area, let the staff kow that your only interested in lead (wheel weights) and to call you when the bucket is full and you'll come pick it up and drop off a case of beer. some shops like midas will fill er up for you in a month or less.

:)
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That used to be the way I worked but it is getting extremely hard to find a "sympathetic shop". Most chain stores have been told that only a licensed scrap dealer can remove the evil lead weights from there premises. I have a neighbor that runs a Kaltire and he showed me the letter stating the same but he always manages to take home a bucket for me once in a while when all the employees have left for the day.

Need to look for a small ma and pa operation or an independent tire shop these days.

Europe has banned lead WW years ago and I assume that it will not be that much longer before North America does the same.
 
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