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Has anyone shot 44-40 shells out of a .410?
If someone has was there any problems at a later date when shooting regular shells. I have a few 44-40 shells an want an empty casing for my collection.
I would be much more likely to try a .410 shell in my 45/70 than to try a 44-40 in a .410...
Something about plastic cartridges being really low pressure compared to brass ones, even old ones... Even though there are .45 LC/.410 guns out there.. Still think it's probably a good way to lose eyebrows, etc. Big Etc on that one.
But what do I know. I've never done it, even being born in the year of the monkey and being curious as hell about everything, I probably wouldn't do that one.
Thanks, I wasn't going to try it. Just wanted to know if anyone has. Is there a way to deactivate the gun powder? Would really like to have one for my collection that is NOT live.
use a bullet hammer to pull the bullet, put the powder in your yard, or burn it in your driveway, and heck just for giggles, go ahead and pop the primer in your 410 with no powder or projectile, there's not much to go wrong there. You could even reseat the bullet after, and have an inert cartridge complete with bullet.
You could pull the bullet with pliers and a piece of leather or something to not damage the bullet too much, then the empty casing would be safe to pop the primer in your .410 if it even fits in the chamber then put the bullet back in it with out the powder.
Might be able to do it without scarring it. I think 44-40 cases are fairly thin and other than a crimp shouldn't have a death grip on the bullet.
I have a box with about 10 or 12 44-40 cases from probably the 50's that I'm just going to leave as is.. They are kinda cool and no real danger unless I have a fire, then those 10 are the least of my worries..
In a fire, if the case got hot enough, it would rupture. The gas is not contained, so the bullet is not a dangerous projectile. The case just ruptures. If you are close enough to have your hand within inches of the rupturing case you might suffer a minor blast injury and/or a laceration to your hand and fingers, but then again, you would not be there if the environment was hot enough to rupture the case.
In the event that a firefighter was in your burning home, and he happened to be holding in his hand the cartridge case at the very moment that it ruptured, he would be unharmed because his personal protective equipment, his gloves, his SCBA face mask, and his protective clothing, each would effectively isolate him from the blast.
THE BORE ON THOSE GUNS IS 45, NOT 410- that's WHY you can do it- 410 is 41 bore, and you're to rellay get into problems GOING THE OTHER WAY- WHY DIES THI9S TOPIC KEEP COMING UP- thiink of it as shoes- you can't fit a size 13 foot into a size 7 shoe, can you?- well, you can't fit a 45 into a 41 caliber bore either- not without it BLOWING UP
My dad used to do it when he was a kid fifty years ago, as 44-40 was way cheaper than 410 slugs. He never had any problems with it; doesn't mean it's a good idea.
Actually a number of older guns out there are .44 shot aka 44-40 shotguns. Many of those are now shot with 2.5" .410 shells. I have a pair of Iver Johnson single shot shotguns in .44 shot and one has fired thousands of .410 shells and according to the original owner a lot of .44-40 rifle ammo. I really should slug the bore to see how tight they are but either way I'd be reluctant to try shooting .44-40 rifle ammo out of them.
I was 13, had an Iver Johnson .410 with a broken extractor, you get good with a screwdriver, shot lots of .45 long colt.. Today I wouldn't, cases bulged where the extractor was,, but, it worked, probably shot out before I was born,, but it worked!! Possible but not something I would recommend. IF,,IF,, you had a bear coming thru the window,, YUP!
I've watched my old man fire 44-40's out of his single shot .410 and I'm pretty sure I've eaten Deer steaks that were put on the table from the same combo...