First Restricted purchase question.. Norinco?

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I am considering what to purchase to start and am leaning towards a Norinco NP-22 or 1911 or both to start (If I can find stock)... wondering if anyone can share their expertise on the Norinco products... I do have the money to purchase a SIG or similar but If I start spending $5, $6, $7K on a couple handguns, shotguns and rifles as well as a gun safe to start my collection the wife may get a little snarky if you know what I mean... So I am looking to keep the costs down for now (Norinco 9MM, .22 handgun, .22 Rifle, Basic tactical shotgun, maybe a "Black" rifle) and spend some extra $$ on a good safe ($1K+) ...

Is it worth spending the money on a Norinco NP-22 and 1911 or will I find myself with a hassle and end up purchasing a SIG/better product anyway in short order?

Any help is appreciated...
 
Should have added that I will only be doing target shooting for now... maybe IPSC down the road once I am more comfortable... and I assume that a Norinco isn't going to be ideal for IPSC.. or will it?? :)
 
I have 4 Norc pistols, they are all good. But if I had my time back instead of buying 4 norcs I would have bought a Glock and a Sig.
 
You should be able to find good used 22s cheap for starters. Revolver would be a good starter, not much to go wrong mechanicaly and easy to clean. Norincos are allright, a poor finnish but still shoot ok. As you gain experience you can improve their reliabilty in your basement yourself without getting into the finer things which you should leave to the pro's. Go slow and you'll learn what you want as you go. Remember shoes with red soles start around $600( your wife will understand) and purses ! look out. Getting even could be expensive.
 
I own an NP-34 and a worked over NP-29 (9mm 1911) and both work fine. The SIG clones and 1911's are some of the best products offered by Norinco and offer good value.

My one caution to buying a 1911 is that .45ACP is expensive ammo to shoot unless you reload. I would also suggest a Ruger 22/45, Browning Buckmark or other rimfire pistol off the start as well. Shooting .22LR is the best way going to shoot lots at low cost, and lets you perfect your technique without lots of recoil and muzzleblast distracting you.

Mark
 
i have a Norc in .45 and if their 9mm is similar, it's ok. not great, not crap. goes BANG when it should, though a bit gritty unless you "clean it up" or have someone else do it. just part-n-parcel of mass manufacture in a low-cost environment. refinement is NOT the name of the game here.

not sure i'd jump in and buy TWO Norcs, though. maybe buy #1 and see if you're comfy with how they build and finish their stuff - and if you are, buy #2.

i have a few "toys" and the Norc is the last one i use simply cuz of ammo costs and its overall 'roughness'. but it's the first one i'd grab if i had to pistol-whip someone!!!
 
I agree with the above on getting a .22...
When I started I personally wasn't interested in the looks or feel of a .22 handgun and so I went with the Sig Sauer P226 9mm and just yesterday I picked up my ruger 22/45 and I honestly think the 22/45 is more fun to shoot, I get to shoot +500 rounds without breaking the bank and virtually no felt recoil, it's just a blast to shoot, my advice is to get a 9mm or something and get a .22 so you have the best of both worlds!
 
A younger guy that I work with bought a 45 (Springfield XD45) for his first pistol. But soon came to the money factor that you do not need a lot of stopping power when it comes it comes to a paper target. So I traded my BHP 9mm with 7 magazines for his pistol to keep him in the hobby. That and less hassle from his wife. LOL
 
I have a older norc 1911 I have been getting ready for ipsc, I really like it and once it was broken in it will eat allmost all of the ammo i feed it.

When I spoke to a couple of local ipsc shooters, and they commented that the standard 1911 is behind the 8 ball when startimg out as it only hold 7-8 rounds to begin with.

There are others to start with, I dont know what other models from norinco that we can get here.
I bought mine before I looked into IPSC, But I still would not trade it, I love it. Cheap and it works.

You should be able to get an affordable other norc model or some other make to use for Ipsc. I am going to try with mine anyway and gravitate to comething else later on.

I should have bought one of those Iraqi berettas. :(

Rifleman
 
Thanks!

I appreciate the quick replies :)

Maybe I will start with 1 Norinco (Maybe a 9mm like a NP-22 or NP-34) and a .22
Was considering the SIG Mosquito but after reading reviews I am leaning away from that...

For Rimfire I have S&W 41 and S&W 22a (.22) on my shortlist... but need to find one for sale (Once my PAL arrives and I have my Range membership) :)

I am still debating a new SIG with .22 slide/barrel.. but for the price of this I could buy a .22, Norinco 9mm and a Norinco .45...

I guess the .45 is a nice to have... not a must have... l

And for a .22 maybe I have to get over the look of a Ruger and try one out :)
 
Rifleman1911 said:
I have a older norc 1911 I have been getting ready for ipsc, I really like it and once it was broken in it will eat allmost all of the ammo i feed it.

When I spoke to a couple of local ipsc shooters, and they commented that the standard 1911 is behind the 8 ball when startimg out as it only hold 7-8 rounds to begin with.

There are others to start with, I dont know what other models from norinco that we can get here.
I bought mine before I looked into IPSC, But I still would not trade it, I love it. Cheap and it works.

You should be able to get an affordable other norc model or some other make to use for Ipsc. I am going to try with mine anyway and gravitate to comething else later on.

I should have bought one of those Iraqi berettas. :(

Rifleman
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Rifleman1911 - Did you go with a .45 1911 for IPSC or a 9mm 1911? I assume .45...
 
Undergiver said:
I have 4 Norc pistols, they are all good. But if I had my time back instead of buying 4 norcs I would have bought a Glock and a Sig.
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This is another option that I was considering... why would you rather have the Glock/SIG than 4 Norinco's? What do you dislike about them?
 
For pistols i would say the most important thing is how does the gun feel in your hand. If you feel the pistol is too large. You won't be able to perform well.
 
MosinNagantM44 said:
For pistols i would say the most important thing is how does the gun feel in your hand. If you feel the pistol is too large. You won't be able to perform well.
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Thanks, Good advice.. and have read that here before... Guess I should get to the gun stores and try some on for size :)
 
the S&W 41 is VERY NICE, but around $1200 i think. i have the S&W 22A and it's great, goes for $350. at 1/4 the price, there's nothing i dislike about it. even the controls are very easy to use (yes, even the mag release - it's actually easier than the 41's). it's been through 1500 rounds so far in only a few range outings, and it loves Win Dynapoint ammo (black box). the HVXpert (sliver box) is crap.

ya, try out a few guns in your hand, but figure out why you want them. just range toys, or some competition, or do you simply enjoy owning items of a certain cachet?

and while you're at it, wrap your hands around a 357Mag revolver and see how it feels and how it "feels". i'm addicted to mine and the ammo can be as cheap as 9mm, yet can give you more punch than a 45 since you can swap between 38 and 357 without batting an eye. it'll also force you to shoot slower, and give you the option to learn to be either delicate or have SMOOTH trigger pull. and you'll NEVER have to pick up your brass from the ground. or buy tons of magazines. speedloaders are cheaper than 95% of the mags out there anyways :p
 
BP7 said:
the S&W 41 is VERY NICE, but around $1200 i think. i have the S&W 22A and it's great, goes for $350. at 1/4 the price, there's nothing i dislike about it. even the controls are very easy to use (yes, even the mag release - it's actually easier than the 41's). it's been through 1500 rounds so far in only a few range outings, and it loves Win Dynapoint ammo (black box). the HVXpert (sliver box) is crap.

ya, try out a few guns in your hand, but figure out why you want them. just range toys, or some competition, or do you simply enjoy owning items of a certain cachet?

and while you're at it, wrap your hands around a 357Mag revolver and see how it feels and how it "feels". i'm addicted to mine and the ammo can be as cheap as 9mm, yet can give you more punch than a 45 since you can swap between 38 and 357 without batting an eye. it'll also force you to shoot slower, and give you the option to learn to be either delicate or have SMOOTH trigger pull. and you'll NEVER have to pick up your brass from the ground. or buy tons of magazines. speedloaders are cheaper than 95% of the mags out there anyways :p
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.357 Mag?? Grrr... this is going to end in divorce :) But hard to argue with your logic :)

.22 Rimfire.. S&W 22A - For cheap plinking
.357 Mag - Need a revolver?? Right?
9mm SIG/Norinco - Cuz you have to have one at least...
1911 .45 - For the days where I feel like putting bigger holes in the targets

+ Shot gun(s)... + Rifles... hmmm... :)
 
blairz said:
.357 Mag?? Grrr... this is going to end in divorce :) But hard to argue with your logic :)

.22 Rimfire.. S&W 22A - For cheap plinking
.357 Mag - Need a revolver?? Right?
9mm SIG/Norinco - Cuz you have to have one at least...
1911 .45 - For the days where I feel like putting bigger holes in the targets

+ Shot gun(s)... + Rifles... hmmm... :)
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for 22, i love my S&W 22A while others love their Rugers and Buckmarks. your hands will quickly say "yay" or "nay". if you wanna spend more, High Standard stuff is nice too, about the same level as S&W 41 though with different control layout.

357mag - yeah, revolver (Ruger GP or S&W 686 or some Taurus thing) or $$$ Desert Eagle. the DE will NOT like plain lead bullets, need to be jacketed. the revolver will shoot anything. here, i personally prefer the short-barrel stuff, not the 6". others prefer the balance of the 6". try 'em out.

9mm - here, there's lots of choices in a reasonable price range, no need to limit it to Norc. look at something like a Glock / S&W MP9 / CZ75 / Beretta (Taurus) / SIG / Walther / ........

1911 - here the Norc makes sense, since they are pretty tough (but rough), and it won't see anywhere near as much range time as the 9mm (i'm guessing). other choices are STI and Taurus.

no idea on shotguns.

i'm guessing Ruger 10/22 and SKS for rifles. evidently, they're the bread-n-butter of the rifle world.
 
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