First Restricted purchase question.. Norinco?

I have two NP29s. One is set up with a Colt .22 unit.
Put a LOT of rounds through them.
Then I bought a Smith M&P 9. Haven't had the 9mm Norinco out since. Did buy a M&P 9 Pro Series, though.
 
blairz said:
.357 Mag?? Grrr... this is going to end in divorce :) But hard to argue with your logic :)
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Well, if you're going to talk revolvers, then look at a .44 Mag. Of course, then you need to look into reloading in order to afford it and get the most out of an incredibly versatile cartridge. You can load powder puff target loads or fire breathing full power stuff and everything in between. I love my Redhawk, it may be second only to my 22/45 in how much fun it is to shoot.

Mark
 
mmattockx said:
Well, if you're going to talk revolvers, then look at a .44 Mag. Of course, then you need to look into reloading in order to afford it and get the most out of an incredibly versatile cartridge. You can load powder puff target loads or fire breathing full power stuff and everything in between. I love my Redhawk, it may be second only to my 22/45 in how much fun it is to shoot.

Mark
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ya, but you could also buy commercial reloads, which might be more sensible for a beginner. and in the case of 357, it's easy to find commercial reloads in 38 and 357, but i've not seen commercial reloads for 44Special, just 44Mag. around 50% more than the price of 357 reloads, too.

reloading isn't a REQUIREMENT like it sometimes comes across being.
 
tiriaq said:
I have two NP29s. One is set up with a Colt .22 unit.
Put a LOT of rounds through them.
Then I bought a Smith M&P 9. Haven't had the 9mm Norinco out since. Did buy a M&P 9 Pro Series, though.
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So the Colt .22 unit works well with your NP-29? Also read that the Kimber .22 unit was ok but wasn't sure if any of them worked on a Norinco 1911... I guess a 1911 is pretty standard? Or are the .22 kits for the 1911's specific by brand?
 
BP7 said:
ya, but you could also buy commercial reloads, which might be more sensible for a beginner. and in the case of 357, it's easy to find commercial reloads in 38 and 357, but i've not seen commercial reloads for 44Special, just 44Mag. around 50% more than the price of 357 reloads, too.

reloading isn't a REQUIREMENT like it sometimes comes across being.
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For now since money isn't an issue (Other then the wife wondering what she is going to get if I drop 5K+on guns) I think I would stick with the commercial reloads until I have more experience... But I am also frugal and am always looking for the biggest bank for my bucks :)
 
BP7 said:
for 22, i love my S&W 22A while others love their Rugers and Buckmarks. your hands will quickly say "yay" or "nay". if you wanna spend more, High Standard stuff is nice too, about the same level as S&W 41 though with different control layout.

357mag - yeah, revolver (Ruger GP or S&W 686 or some Taurus thing) or $$$ Desert Eagle. the DE will NOT like plain lead bullets, need to be jacketed. the revolver will shoot anything. here, i personally prefer the short-barrel stuff, not the 6". others prefer the balance of the 6". try 'em out.

9mm - here, there's lots of choices in a reasonable price range, no need to limit it to Norc. look at something like a Glock / S&W MP9 / CZ75 / Beretta (Taurus) / SIG / Walther / ........

1911 - here the Norc makes sense, since they are pretty tough (but rough), and it won't see anywhere near as much range time as the 9mm (i'm guessing). other choices are STI and Taurus.

no idea on shotguns.

i'm guessing Ruger 10/22 and SKS for rifles. evidently, they're the bread-n-butter of the rifle world.
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I guess it is time for a "noob" silly question... will Milarm or R&D have any problems handing over guns to a customer to have a feel without having a RPAL?? Or will some ID suffice??
 
blairz said:
I guess it is time for a "noob" silly question... will Milarm or R&D have any problems handing over guns to a customer to have a feel without having a RPAL?? Or will some ID suffice??
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You planning to take it home with you?
 
blairz said:
For now since money isn't an issue (Other then the wife wondering what she is going to get if I drop 5K+on guns) I think I would stick with the commercial reloads until I have more experience... But I am also frugal and am always looking for the biggest bank for my bucks :)
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biggest "bang" for the buck is a tie between 357mag and 45acp. the 357 actually wins cuz it also takes 38spl - which from a cost perspective is like a 45 taking a 9 (which ain't gonna happen). when you buy 1000 rounds of commercial reloads, the 45 costs the same as the 357.


blairz said:
I guess it is time for a "noob" silly question... will Milarm or R&D have any problems handing over guns to a customer to have a feel without having a RPAL?? Or will some ID suffice??
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no, not at all. i would hope that they'd want you to remember them in a good way and come buy from them once you DO have your RPAL. just remember DO NOT do something with an empty gun that you wouldn't do with a fully loaded gun. and go on a not-busy night so that they don't feel like they're being taken away from a customer that DOES have an RPAL and is ready to buy.
 
Blairz

I Picked up the .45 acp as I like the caliber. it is an A1C and I am just in the middle of finishing replaceing and molding in a new STI grip safety.

It was rough when I bought it new so I deburred all of the sharp edges and I picked up 4 DLASK mags for it last year when they were on sale.

Next job is fixing the dovetailed sights.

I picked it up in .45 ACP cause I like it and I also reload for it.

I rea;;y just picked it up cheap cause I thought that at the time they were going too grandfather all handguns at the time, (I know I know, youg dumb and stoopid at the time) so they could not take it away.

There is a .22lr revolver my father has, that I want to inherat soooooo.


Speaking of .38 spl my father had one at work for 30+ years so he gave me all of his leftover ammo for it a few months back, so I am on the hunt for a .357 also as the S&W .38 I want is a prohib the I find everywhere but I cant have. So I have lots to shoot. :) cool calibre to shoot.

Rifleman
Oh well.
 
My First buy was a Ruger 22/45 from EE. After Ive put 5000-6000 rounds in it. I noticed a night and day improvement in my shooting. While shooting my ruger I tried many guns from other range members. Like all gunnutz when you see a noob at the range you want help him improve and make a good choice. So most of the time I didnt even had to ask to try them. This helped me alot for my next buy

My Cost for a day at the range was under $40, 95% of the time.
Only after 5-6K rounds I bought a 9mm (browning HP), then more and reloading came in and more guns...

My best advice is not to jump any steps

In the long round this will keep you shooting

I still bring my .22 at the range most of the time. Specially when I get too lazy with my reloads :D

Norinco are fun guns specially if you are gunsmithing oriented
 
BP7 said:
biggest "bang" for the buck is a tie between 357mag and 45acp. the 357 actually wins cuz it also takes 38spl - which from a cost perspective is like a 45 taking a 9 (which ain't gonna happen). when you buy 1000 rounds of commercial reloads, the 45 costs the same as the 357.




no, not at all. i would hope that they'd want you to remember them in a good way and come buy from them once you DO have your RPAL. just remember DO NOT do something with an empty gun that you wouldn't do with a fully loaded gun. and go on a not-busy night so that they don't feel like they're being taken away from a customer that DOES have an RPAL and is ready to buy.
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I understand as a small business owner myself... I do not want to waste their time. I will be buying from R&D and Milarm so I wouldn't feel guilty asking questions and trying a couple on for size..
 
Rifleman1911 said:
Blairz

I Picked up the .45 acp as I like the caliber. it is an A1C and I am just in the middle of finishing replaceing and molding in a new STI grip safety.

It was rough when I bought it new so I deburred all of the sharp edges and I picked up 4 DLASK mags for it last year when they were on sale.

Next job is fixing the dovetailed sights.

I picked it up in .45 ACP cause I like it and I also reload for it.

I rea;;y just picked it up cheap cause I thought that at the time they were going too grandfather all handguns at the time, (I know I know, youg dumb and stoopid at the time) so they could not take it away.

There is a .22lr revolver my father has, that I want to inherat soooooo.


Speaking of .38 spl my father had one at work for 30+ years so he gave me all of his leftover ammo for it a few months back, so I am on the hunt for a .357 also as the S&W .38 I want is a prohib the I find everywhere but I cant have. So I have lots to shoot. :) cool calibre to shoot.

Rifleman
Oh well.
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Thanks!

I think I am sold on a revolver... as they say you twisted my rubber arm... :)

I guess it is back to the forum for more research... Lots of really good info on here and so little time... trying to sift through it all as a noob can be a little intimidating...
 
volks_r_us said:
My First buy was a Ruger 22/45 from EE. After Ive put 5000-6000 rounds in it. I noticed a night and day improvement in my shooting. While shooting my ruger I tried many guns from other range members. Like all gunnutz when you see a noob at the range you want help him improve and make a good choice. So most of the time I didnt even had to ask to try them. This helped me alot for my next buy

My Cost for a day at the range was under $40, 95% of the time.
Only after 5-6K rounds I bought a 9mm (browning HP), then more and reloading came in and more guns...

My best advice is not to jump any steps

In the long round this will keep you shooting

I still bring my .22 at the range most of the time. Specially when I get too lazy with my reloads :D

Norinco are fun guns specially if you are gunsmithing oriented
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This does make sense... and for me since I have the money I think that I have to come home with a trunk full of guns on the first day :)

Taking it slow and starting with a .22 is from what I am reading the way to go to prevent picking up bad habits with a larger caliber...

Must say I am impressed with the responses on this form lost of good advice and it is nice to have people to bounce ideas off that have been here before :)
 
BP7 said:
ya, but you could also buy commercial reloads, which might be more sensible for a beginner. and in the case of 357, it's easy to find commercial reloads in 38 and 357, but i've not seen commercial reloads for 44Special, just 44Mag. around 50% more than the price of 357 reloads, too.

reloading isn't a REQUIREMENT like it sometimes comes across being.
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Reloading is practically a requirement for the .44 Mag, not the other calibres. There is minimal selection of loads for the .44 available commercially and pretty much all of them are full power loads, for serious $$$. My light loads cost about $0.20/round, while factory ammo costs close to $1.00/round. I think I have already paid for most of my reloading set up just off the savings in .44 Mag this year.

blairz said:
Thanks!

I think I am sold on a revolver... as they say you twisted my rubber arm... :)

I guess it is back to the forum for more research... Lots of really good info on here and so little time... trying to sift through it all as a noob can be a little intimidating...
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If you are looking at revolvers in .357, the two most common options are the S&W 586/686 (blued/stainless versions) and the Ruger GP100. Both are quality pieces, with the Smith having the better trigger and the Ruger being more robust if you plan on shooting a lot of full house magnum loads. Don't be afraid to look at used guns, if properly cared for they last decades.

blairz said:
This does make sense... and for me since I have the money I think that I have to come home with a trunk full of guns on the first day :)

Taking it slow and starting with a .22 is from what I am reading the way to go to prevent picking up bad habits with a larger caliber...
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.22LR is the best practice/training calibre there is. Taking it a step at a time and getting a feel for each step is a good idea, rather than jumping in with both feet. After some exposure to various shooting disciplines you may find yourself heading in a different direction than originally thought. This happens to most of us along the way and going about it methodically may save you buying and selling a few guns while you get a feel for things.

Mark
 
mmattockx said:
Reloading is practically a requirement for the .44 Mag, not the other calibres. There is minimal selection of loads for the .44 available commercially and pretty much all of them are full power loads, for serious $$$. My light loads cost about $0.20/round, while factory ammo costs close to $1.00/round. I think I have already paid for most of my reloading set up just off the savings in .44 Mag this year.



If you are looking at revolvers in .357, the two most common options are the S&W 586/686 (blued/stainless versions) and the Ruger GP100. Both are quality pieces, with the Smith having the better trigger and the Ruger being more robust if you plan on shooting a lot of full house magnum loads. Don't be afraid to look at used guns, if properly cared for they last decades.



.22LR is the best practice/training calibre there is. Taking it a step at a time and getting a feel for each step is a good idea, rather than jumping in with both feet. After some exposure to various shooting disciplines you may find yourself heading in a different direction than originally thought. This happens to most of us along the way and going about it methodically may save you buying and selling a few guns while you get a feel for things.

Mark
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Thanks Mark!

Starting slow with a .22 sounds like the way to go... then I just have to decide quality or quantity from there and get a couple cheaper guns of different calibers or 1 good solid pistol-9mm/revolver-357 :)
 
Keeping it interesting and affordable

Perhaps go and buy yourself couple of attractive and accurate .22 handguns, that way you will keep yourself interested, and save money on ammo in the long run.
 
blairz said:
I guess it is time for a "noob" silly question... will Milarm or R&D have any problems handing over guns to a customer to have a feel without having a RPAL?? Or will some ID suffice??
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In my understanding, neither of them will let you handle a restricted firearm without the license. But both will be happy to show them to you.
 
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