Hey guys quick question. I am 99% sure that I am ok here but figure its worth asking anyways. I have an older wood gun cabinet with a glass insert in the door do display whats in the cabinet. This meets the requirements for storing my non-restricted so long as I have trigger/bolt locks on them all correct? They dont need to be in a safe or solid metal cabinet right?
Gun Cabinet
- Thread starter tdk213
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- Victoria, BC
All the information you need is on the RCMP site
As far as it goes:
All that means is, your cabinet meets basic criteria. Personally, I would not store ammunition and non-trigger locked firearms together in a wood and glass cabinet.
I'd suggest one other piece of locking, like a cable or trigger lock for all your firearms if you are planning to store ammunition. It really comes down to what you are comfortable with, do you simply want to pass legal standards, or do you actually want your non-restricted secure?
And remember, Keep being Sand Man AWESOME
Cheers,
Sand
As far as it goes:
All that means is, your cabinet meets basic criteria. Personally, I would not store ammunition and non-trigger locked firearms together in a wood and glass cabinet.
I'd suggest one other piece of locking, like a cable or trigger lock for all your firearms if you are planning to store ammunition. It really comes down to what you are comfortable with, do you simply want to pass legal standards, or do you actually want your non-restricted secure?
And remember, Keep being Sand Man AWESOME
Cheers,
Sand
"...meets the requirements..." Yep. You may want to think about changing the glass to lexan as an added bit of security. Doesn't break if you smack it with a hammer. It isn't required by any law. Just a thought. Regular plexiglas will do as well.
Operative words being 'think about'. Lexan isn't cheap. Two square feet, 3/16" thick cost me $50, 20 or so years ago. Had to replace a sliding window on the truck I had then. I'd hate to think what a sheet big enough for a gun cabinet would cost. Cuts with regular wood working tools.
Operative words being 'think about'. Lexan isn't cheap. Two square feet, 3/16" thick cost me $50, 20 or so years ago. Had to replace a sliding window on the truck I had then. I'd hate to think what a sheet big enough for a gun cabinet would cost. Cuts with regular wood working tools.
Yes they meet requirements for Display. Do not store ammo with them. Don`t worry about the glass, you are not making a cabinet.
From RCMP:
Here are the rules for displaying a firearm in your home.
Ammunition cannot be displayed with, or accessible to, the firearms.
Non-restricted firearms
* Attach a secure locking device to the firearms; or
* Lock the firearms in a container or room that is hard to break into.
MudChucker
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- Niverville, Manitoba, CA
I do use a wooden cabinet as well.. but I have no glass in mine.
My guess is that you do not meet the basic criteria as stated
" Lock the firearms in a container or room that is hard to break into."
what part of the glass is "hard to break into" ?
My guess is that you do not meet the basic criteria as stated
" Lock the firearms in a container or room that is hard to break into."
what part of the glass is "hard to break into" ?
- Location
- Victoria, BC
tdk213, don't listen to what the others have said. I provided a factual link to the RCMP website.
As for the other comments:
If he has more than 4 square feet of glass, it would be cheaper to buy a gun cabinet from costco.
Wrong, you need to read his question more carefully.......
The OP is not asking about display laws, he asking about storing his firearms in a cabinet. So, in fact, he is legally allowed to store ammunition with the firearms.
The description of a "hard to break into" firearms storage location is extremely vague. Regardless, I think it would be counter productive for the OP to spend money on improving his cabinet, or buying an extra one.
Cheers,
Sand
As for the other comments:
If he has more than 4 square feet of glass, it would be cheaper to buy a gun cabinet from costco.
Wrong, you need to read his question more carefully.......
The OP is not asking about display laws, he asking about storing his firearms in a cabinet. So, in fact, he is legally allowed to store ammunition with the firearms.
The description of a "hard to break into" firearms storage location is extremely vague. Regardless, I think it would be counter productive for the OP to spend money on improving his cabinet, or buying an extra one.
Cheers,
Sand
Thanks for all the info guys... My ammo is stored in my acctual safe. I just have my guns trigger locked in the cabinet cause well I like to look at them. If I were to be gone for a extened period (couple days or more) of time I would put them in my safe. So maybe I was wrong to say storage, I think I fall more into the display category. But after looking through The Sand Man's link it sounds like I am fine with my set up.
Thanks for the suggestion. I have thought about lexan before, however I deemed it a waste of time and money. Granted nobody would break through the lexan but the rest of it is wood. I'm sure if I wanted to get in it would only take maybe half a dozen good punches at most or one good kick to break out the wood sides. By no means do I think this cabinet would acctually keep someone from getting to them. Thats why they are all trigger locked and only I have access to the key.
I was more just interested to see if this display/storage set up satisfied the legal requirements as they are more than a little ambiguous. However it seems to be ok so long as the ammo is stored seperately and I have them trigger/bolt locked. If I can figure out how to get pics up here I will try and put one up if I have time.
- Location
- Victoria, BC
I think we are done here. Thanks guys!!!
With the issue resolved *brushing hands*....
I say we divert this thread to the importance of factual replies, rather than posting unsure opinions.
The RCMP website is fairly well laid out, enough to find all laws and regulations necessary to meet and exceed legal standards.
I'm done here *Brushes dust off shoulder, walks away* 
Cheers,
Sand
- Location
- Victoria, BC
Oh man, this is going to get vicious. Mods, get ready to lock.....
Nowhere does it state that a container with a window is considered to be display. Whether it is see through is not the issue. The important portion is the fact that it must be "hard to break into". If it is a locked gun cabinet, it is the same as a metal gun cabinet, simply made of a different material.
I think you are a wood and glass racist.
P.S. Yes, I like to argue.
Cheers,
Sand
Nowhere does it state that a container with a window is considered to be display. Whether it is see through is not the issue. The important portion is the fact that it must be "hard to break into". If it is a locked gun cabinet, it is the same as a metal gun cabinet, simply made of a different material.
I think you are a wood and glass racist.
P.S. Yes, I like to argue.
Cheers,
Sand
I think this is just where it gets confusing with the law... Cause really the storage laws and Display laws say the same thing(for non-restricted)... the only difference is that if you are displaying them the ammo cant be with the firearms or accessable. If they were in a safe I could have the ammo with them and the firearms unlocked as it is pretty much impossible to argue that a is easy to break into.
However as far as my question is concerned. It doesnt matter if you are saying my cabinet is storage cabinet or display cabinet. My firearms are all unloaded trigger locked and my ammo is in a separate locked container (My safe). So I fall within the law on both of them display or storage laws.
Thanks for all the input guys but this question is answered in my mind.
Thanks again to Sand Man for linking me the RCMP's perspective on the issue.
However as far as my question is concerned. It doesnt matter if you are saying my cabinet is storage cabinet or display cabinet. My firearms are all unloaded trigger locked and my ammo is in a separate locked container (My safe). So I fall within the law on both of them display or storage laws.
Thanks for all the input guys but this question is answered in my mind.
Thanks again to Sand Man for linking me the RCMP's perspective on the issue.
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