optics on an XCR

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hey guys, Im a total newbie when it comes to black rifles and just aquired an XCR. Im looking to use the rifle for plinking and coyotes this winter. Im looking to shoot at ranges not much past 100 yards, my bolt gun will be used for longer shots. Any suggestions on what I should use? Im liking the idea of a red dot, possibly the Vortex Strikefire. If I decide on the red dot what type of mount does it require? I may also consider a low powered variable but again am wondering if I need a special mount to get right height.
Anyone else have a favorite that will run me under $300 for the moment, let me know. Also who seems to give the best customer service and price for black rifle goodies?

Cheers!!
 
Wolverine Suppies in Virden, MB carries all the goodies for black rifles and their customer service is second to none.

Give them a call, they are a site sponser. I deal with Ryan and have always been happy with the out of the way service everyone there gives me. Highly recommended.
 
For under $300, I would look at one of the Millett variable red dots, lots of good reviews. Personally, I wouldnt spend less than it takes for an aimpoint or eotech (which can be had for maybe $100-200 more). For a premium optic that you will love forever, spend $1k and get a NF (or spend $2k and get an S&B)

Oh, and welcome to the dark side :D
 
I just put a Trijicon TA11F on my XCR. If $300 is your price limit get a Millet DMS-1 I had one on my XCR before I switched to Trijicon. Cost is around the $300 mark depending on retailer, and you get good a good quality scope, for what you pay.
 
I am also waiting for my xcr to come in hopefully next week:)
I am going to put a Micro H-1 on it for now but might look at variable power optic later.It will also only be for 100 yrds max.Spend the xtra bucks and get something you know will work and be solid.
 
I would recommend that to stay away from the Vortex Strikefire. My wife has one on her AR, and it has let her down on several occations. The dot just isn't bright enough in sunlight, and this is with brand new batteries. The batteries don't last very long, the ring you get with it is ####ty, the crossbolt broke off the first time it was mounted, and yes, I used a torque wrench, and in addition to these actual flaws, I personally do not like the switches. I'm used to Aimpoints, where there is only one switch, and you just keep turning it to go from NV to visible dot, instead of some flimsy rubber button that you never really know if you pressed hard enough, or if the batteries are dead.
Go with an aimpoint (Or any other good, respected brand), it won't let you down!
I have a couple of aimpoints, Acog, a Bushnell Trophy ACOG knock off type, and another bushnell trophy normal 30mm tube type red dot.
The Aimpoints and ACOG are awesome! The Bushnell ACOG type T Dot sight is not bright enough in bright light, even with brand new batteries. For a reasonably priced red dot sight, the tube type Bushnell Trophy sight has actually been very good, and the dot is bright enough.
Spend the money and get a quality sight right away, instead of upgrading when you get fed up with a cheap sight.
 
I believe that the Bushnell Holosight has been discontinued by Bushnell; however, you might be able to a dealer that has one still in their inventory or perhaps you could look for a used one on the Equipment Exchange.


Regards,

Chizzy
 
I use a Falcon Menace 1.5-5 scope on Leupold medium height quick release rings on my XCR. Enough magnification to see the holes at 100m, yet can be quickly dialed back for close work. Also has a 2 MOA dot and red/green variable illumination.

My other choice in that price range would be the Millet DMS.
 
gorky said:
For under $300, I would look at one of the Millett variable red dots, lots of good reviews. Personally, I wouldnt spend less than it takes for an aimpoint or eotech (which can be had for maybe $100-200 more). For a premium optic that you will love forever, spend $1k and get a NF (or spend $2k and get an S&B)

Oh, and welcome to the dark side :D
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You just spent well over $2000 on a rifle. Do it justice and buy appropriate optics. A low magnification Leupold Mark4 MR/T or Nightforce (if you have the Ca$h) would be best.

Just remember, your gun is only as good as the glass it's wearing.
 
Want a variable 1x-3x scope that is made in Japan and in the $200 range?

Buy a Weaver Classic V-Series scope :) ...that's my future optic.
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I'd buy some quality BUIS instead of an optic with that budget. Especially on a rifle like the XCR.

Millets seem to have some good reviews, so do the Falcon Menace scopes (service rifle section for review).
 
Ar180shooter said:
:agree:

You just spent well over $2000 on a rifle. Do it justice and buy appropriate optics. A low magnification Leupold Mark4 MR/T or Nightforce (if you have the Ca$h) would be best.

Just remember, your gun is only as good as the glass it's wearing.
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I agree with you guys to a point. I have $2000 bolt guns which I hunt with and I use either Bushnell elite 3200's or my favorite the Burris Fullfield II's which can be found for $200 used and they excellent optics.
Im not cheap but do know that decent optics can be found for reasonable prices. If I was going to war I would by the best but my battle with coyotes..a $300 optic should be OK :D
Plus Im already going to buy the 556 kit which will set me back a few bucks.

Cheers!!
 
I won't make a suggestion on what your asking just sharing what I have on my XCR-L...

223 barrel + Vari X 11 4-12X40 AO LR reticle = gophers/coyotes

6.8spc barrel + VX111 4.5-14X40 LR (30mm tube) Varmint reticle = coyotes/wolves/deer/black bears etc (I am getting very good accuracy out to 400 yards with this set up and 95gr TTSX loads).

If I could afford it both scopes would be VX111 or VX3 4.5-14 Varmint reticles.
 
scott_r said:
I agree with you guys to a point. I have $2000 bolt guns which I hunt with and I use either Bushnell elite 3200's or my favorite the Burris Fullfield II's which can be found for $200 used and they excellent optics.
Im not cheap but do know that decent optics can be found for reasonable prices. If I was going to war I would by the best but my battle with coyotes..a $300 optic should be OK :D
Plus Im already going to buy the 556 kit which will set me back a few bucks.

Cheers!!
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Please say that the Elite 3200 on your $2000 rifle has at least the 50mm objective...

If not... f:P:

But my question is, if you can afford a $2000 rifle, can't you at least put a good scope on it? It doesn't have to be a $2000 one, but maybe a Swarovski Z3 or at least a Zeiss Conquest (and something better than the $500 3-9x40 model, the 50mm objective makes a huge difference).

Even moving up to an Elite 4200 makes a big difference (especially when you go from the 40mm to 50mm objective).

Anyways, I digress, so to sum everything up, if you only have $2300 to spend on a rifle and scope, it's better to get a $1000 Tikka T3 lite and a $1300 Swarovski Z3 than a $2000 rifle and a $300 Bushnell.

All IMO, of course.

Ar180shooter
 
Ar180shooter said:
Please say that the Elite 3200 on your $2000 rifle has at least the 50mm objective...

If not... f:P:

Ar180shooter
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The objective size isn't a quality indicator. A 50mm objective is only beneficial for improving light gathering at higher magnifications compared with a smaller objective. Assuming that a 7mm exit pupil is all that anyone's eye can use, a 50mm objective will provide that at 7.1x magnification compared with 5.7x for a 40mm or 4.6x for a 32mm objective.

That said, a 3200 Elite scope on a $2000 rifle is silly. A high end rifle deserves more than a bare minimum optic. Keep in mind that when you buy a more expensive scope, you are generally paying for more than just optical quality. I would consider things like mechanical durability and repeatability of adjustments to be more important than glass quality.
 
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