.17HM2/Mach2

cptseawolf

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Hey,

I have come across a deal for a brand new rimfire rifle in .17HM2. I have done some reading and the round looks good on paper, necked down .22lr - flatter shooting, etc.

Do many places in southern ontario stock this cartridge? I have read complaints that its hard to find ammo. Should i just pass and look at 22LRs if i want a rimfire?
 
cptseawolf said:
Hey,

I have come across a deal for a brand new rimfire rifle in .17HM2. I have done some reading and the round looks good on paper, necked down .22lr - flatter shooting, etc.

Do many places in southern ontario stock this cartridge? I have read complaints that its hard to find ammo. Should i just pass and look at 22LRs if i want a rimfire?
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Hmmm I am not really sure were are you in S Ontario ?.
 
I dont have any problems finding 17 HMR. You will have to go to a gun store to get it.
I have not seen any HMR or HM2 at Wally or CT.

How much shooting do are you going to do??
Never looked at HM2 prices but
$25 for 50 rounds of 17 HMR
$25 for 525 rounds of 22lr
 
The.22guy said:
Hmmm I am not really sure were are you in S Ontario ?.
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Burlington

speedjunkiesracing said:
I dont have any problems finding 17 HMR. You will have to go to a gun store to get it.
I have not seen any HMR or HM2 at Wally or CT.

How much shooting do are you going to do??
Never looked at HM2 prices but
$25 for 50 rounds of 17 HMR
$25 for 525 rounds of 22lr
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HM2 is much cheaper than HMR, but slightly more $ than 22lr....

I just dont want to drop $ on a gun that is impossible to shoot, and i have to mail order all my ammo.

Mike
 
You can order 17Mach2 Ammo from Prophet River for around $70 per brick.If you order in volume,the freight is quite reasonable.You can ship 5000 rounds from Alberta to Ontario for less than $50.
 
the 17 mach2 is a fun caliber to shoot. I have a marlin 917 and it is very accurate. Ammo is reasonable price and they mess up a gopher real nice. Fun to plink, more zing than a 22lr and cheaper than the 17hmr.
 
I am going to shoot some gophers tomorrow with my marlin 717 mach2. Great little gun and it gets the most use.
 
so basicly you order ammo from the prairies....
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And I order my SK Standard Plus 22lr loads from Hirsch Precision in Nova Scotia.I order a minimum of 5000 rounds at a time,so the freight isn't an issue.The last time that I bought 17Mach2 ammunition,I bought 18,000 rounds,6,000 for a friend,and 12,000 for myself.
 
and as my first rifle used for cheap range use and plinking ....you think i want to pay 4-5 times the cost of the rifle right away so that i can order 10,000 rnds to save on shipping?

Like i said..thanks for the help. HM2 is not for me.
 
and as my first rifle used for cheap range use and plinking ....you think i want to pay 4-5 times the cost of the rifle right away so that i can order 10,000 rnds to save on shipping?

Like i said..thanks for the help. HM2 is not for me.
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The 17Mach2 was never developed for cheap range use and plinking,it was developed to be used on small varmints.For it's intended use,it does a great job,at a more affordable price than the 17HMR.
 
its not a whole lot more money than .22LR and is still alot cheaper than almost all centre fire ammo.

So it would still be economical to shoot if you could find it anywhere. Since no one has told me a local place to get it, it's over...no use to me, sorry.

Thanks
 
its not a whole lot more money than .22LR and is still alot cheaper than almost all centre fire ammo.
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If cheap is that important to you,you can still buy a brick of 22lr for $20 or so,while a brick of 17Mach2 is going to cost you around $90 in most locations.By buying in volume,I have bought 17Mach2 for as little as $65 per brick.However,even at $65 per brick,it is still more than three times the cost of the lower priced 22lr loads.For plinking the 22lr,makes much more sense financially,but when the ranges get longer,it normally takes higher end 22lr loads to stay with the 17Mach2 accuracy wise.So the cost for equivalent accuracy is very close for both cartridges,by the time the range reaches 100 yards.Then again,for plinking,top notch accuracy isn't at all necessary.
 
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Can't see it lasting.

It just seems like the 17 HM2 is going to go the way of the Betamax. I can buy 22lr, 22 magnum and 17 HMR at my local CT store, but I've never seen 17 HM2.

I was tempted to buy an 17 HM2 because rifles are so cheap but when it comes down to it something else beats it every which way.

  • 22 lr smokes it in price @ $20ish per BRICK
  • 22 Magnum still a viable choice @ $15 per 50
  • 17 HMR smokes it in performance, availability and price $19ish per 50 available locally
  • If you are set up for reloading you can load 22 hornet about as cheap as either of the 17s from what I've heard

Good luck to anyone who owns one. Can they be bored out to 17 HMR if the owner chooses?

Me? I'm getting a nice 22 and gonna get damn good with it. :cool:
 
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17HM2 is available and out there - you just have to ask. My two local stores here in Durham Region ON have it - Gagnon Sports and Williams Arms. Around $8 to $9 per 50. If you picked some up at LeBaron last year they were on sale for around $5.50 a box. Last time I was at Bass Pro they had it for around $8 a box. I don't know what all the dilemna is about - it's a great round for it's intended use and more reasonably priced than the 22 wmr or 17hmr. I sold one of mine on the EE recently because I bought several of them and I only shoot one. I've got so many 22's I can't count. They won't replace the .22 but they are a great rifle for small game. If it's a first rifle however, the .22 is the way to go.
 
22 Magnum still a viable choice @ $15 per 50
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Which is more than double what I pay for 17Mach2.

17 HMR smokes it in performance, availability and price $19ish per 50 available locally
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That is triple what I pay for 17Mach2,and I can load my .223 which greatly outperforms the 17HMR for that price.

If you are set up for reloading you can load 22 hornet about as cheap as either of the 17s from what I've heard
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Certainly cheaper the 17HMR at your price of $19,but not at the price that I pay for 17Mach2.

Can they be bored out to 17 HMR if the owner chooses?
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Apparently you are unaware of the fact that the 17Mach2 and 17HMR use different length actions.

The attraction of the 17Mach2 is that it provides a fairly flat shooting cartridge out to approx 150 yards,and in most rifles,it tends to be more accurate at 100 yards and further, than most 22lr guns using low priced ammunition.In order to achieve the same level of accuracy with a 22lr,you generally have to use a higher end ammunition,which costs just as much or more than what I pay for 17Mach2 ammunition.

You can still buy a 17Mach2 for $200 or less.With you paying $19 for 17HMR,and me paying $6.50 for 17Mach2,I could save the price of the 17Mach2 rifle in less than 1000 rounds fired.If you fired 5000 rounds of 17Mach2,you would save $1250 compared to a 17HMR,so even if they quit making the 17Mach 2,you would have paid for the gun,and be $1000 ahead.

And by the way,the prices that you are posting,indicate that you are paying far more than you need to for your 22mag and 17HMR loads.
 
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And by the way,the prices that you are posting,indicate that you are paying far more than you need to for your 22mag and 17HMR loads.
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yup, I was just posting what a guy could pick up at the local Canadian Tire, TSC or whatnot store. I can find bricks of 22lr at CT but nothing else in a brick. I'm not really accustomed to talking the bulk buys you are. :redface:

I didn't know the actions where different lengths, I was just wondering since I've heard of people boring our their 22 lr chambers to 22 magnum.

Everything you posted was good info to know.
 
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