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Which makes the other 20% impervious to harm.
62% of all statistics are made up on the spot... 45% of all people ages 18 to 45 know that.
You could extract it from chicken poop... I'm told bat guano worked best though.
Potassium nitrate...where to buy???
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Which makes the other 20% impervious to harm.
62% of all statistics are made up on the spot... 45% of all people ages 18 to 45 know that.
You could extract it from chicken poop... I'm told bat guano worked best though.
I think a few people on this thread are confusing Potassium Nitrate with Ammonium Nitrate. One is Saltpeter and, while a key ingredient in blackpowder, is not an explosive in and of itself. The other is fertilizer and, when mixed with diesel fuel, becomes AMFO, a popular industrial explosive. I have "played' with both and still retain all my digits and boyish good looks. I must be one of that lucky 20%.
The good "old" days
We had one ton of Ammonium Nitrate in the barn up until awhile ago.
If I remember correctly, Potassium Nitrate + Sugar + Red powder coloring. Add fire and it made a neat volcanic irruption for my volcano in the school science fare.
When I was a kid I played with potassium nitrate and survived, now that I am all growed up I want to make some fuses for small cannons because it is illegal to use caps or so I am told. When I was a kid I could do illegal stuff and get away with it now that I am all growed up if I do illegal stuff they throw my skinny ass in jail...............
I think t is more than $20 a bag. Apparently (some?) ag stores in Ontario now want you to have a Pesticide Licence and farm certificate, before they will sell ammonium nitrate, and I presume potassium nitrate, in addition to ID. Also, you must have secure storage for it.
But then this IS in Ontario, where they launched a manhunt a couple months ago for a guy who bought a bunch of bags of ammonium nitrate that they considered "suspicious".
Yes, but it is just recently been classed as a controlled substance under the same law as ammonium nitrate and other oxidizers.
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/SOR-2008-47/page-2.html#anchorbo-ga:s_3
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/SOR-2008-47/page-3.html#anchorbo-ga:l_1
fat tony
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
^Soon, everything that is 'dual use' will require a half page of information from the buyer.
Oh well, by the sounds of some of the replies in this thread, the plans for creating a nanny state on this side of the pond are well underway. make blackpowder go to jail.
Oh well, by the sounds of some of the replies in this thread, the plans for creating a nanny state on this side of the pond are well underway. make blackpowder go to jail.
Got a friend who runs cattle on a farm? If so, chances are that he's got a manure-pile. Dig around in the bottom of a good OLD manure-pile and you'll come across levels that appear WET and look greasy. Keep going just a bit and you'll start finding what look like lumps of wet maple sugar. This is crude saltpeter. Bring these lumps out and chuck them onto a tarp or something to dry, or just pop them into a 10-gallon drum.
When you have all you want, put the manure-pile back together and wander off with your barrel. Add hot water to the barrel JUST sufficient to dissolve all your crude nitre. Give it a stir. Yeah, it stinks, but it's sort of a CLEAN stink: not like Government at all.
Now start heating your nice barrel, watching the steam boiling itself off. The stuff is now becoming a superconcentrated solution. Make yourself up a couple of coat-hangers into sort-of tree forms and when the stuff begins trying to crystallise out on the sides of your barrel, hang these in and let the pretty white crystals form around your hangers. Later, as the level gets down, the stuff will start crystallising in yellow and then light brown and finally in a darker brown. The lighter the colour is, the purer the stuff is.
Ideally, you will just want the white, but there's nothing to stop you from taking the yellow and dissolving it and recrystallising it out, raising its purity as you do so. You powder it before you use it. And DON'T eat any! You can purify ALL of it by adding stages, even the stinky brown stuff.
Europe fought its wars like this for 300 years before the rich guano beds were discovered in Chile, then they spent the next 300 years fighting wars on Chile Saltpetre, made exactly the same way, just using bird crap.
Welcome to the Late Middle Ages, friend!
(For a really good read, get a copy of H. Beam Piper's "Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen". It was Piper's last book, unfortunately. Publisher took too long accepting it and Piper shot himself out of sheer depression. If he had gone to the Post Office instead, he would have found the cheque which would have kept him alive. Terrible Tragedy. Great Book. What to do when God controls the munitions industry!)
When you have all you want, put the manure-pile back together and wander off with your barrel. Add hot water to the barrel JUST sufficient to dissolve all your crude nitre. Give it a stir. Yeah, it stinks, but it's sort of a CLEAN stink: not like Government at all.
Now start heating your nice barrel, watching the steam boiling itself off. The stuff is now becoming a superconcentrated solution. Make yourself up a couple of coat-hangers into sort-of tree forms and when the stuff begins trying to crystallise out on the sides of your barrel, hang these in and let the pretty white crystals form around your hangers. Later, as the level gets down, the stuff will start crystallising in yellow and then light brown and finally in a darker brown. The lighter the colour is, the purer the stuff is.
Ideally, you will just want the white, but there's nothing to stop you from taking the yellow and dissolving it and recrystallising it out, raising its purity as you do so. You powder it before you use it. And DON'T eat any! You can purify ALL of it by adding stages, even the stinky brown stuff.
Europe fought its wars like this for 300 years before the rich guano beds were discovered in Chile, then they spent the next 300 years fighting wars on Chile Saltpetre, made exactly the same way, just using bird crap.
Welcome to the Late Middle Ages, friend!
(For a really good read, get a copy of H. Beam Piper's "Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen". It was Piper's last book, unfortunately. Publisher took too long accepting it and Piper shot himself out of sheer depression. If he had gone to the Post Office instead, he would have found the cheque which would have kept him alive. Terrible Tragedy. Great Book. What to do when God controls the munitions industry!)
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Use a double boiler and do it outside. Trust me, melting it in a single saucepan on the kitchen stove is not smart. Don't ask.
If I crashed on a desert island some of what you are saying would make sense but I live in the biggest city on the west coast of the great dominion of CANADA. People have died protecting my right to posses components for potentially dangerous stuff, and so I ask once again where can I get some Potassium Nitrate............
See post #3.so I ask once again where can I get some Potassium Nitrate............
fat tony
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
It has been illegal to make your own explosive for decades. There is nothing new about this.
FWIW this is an excellent book.
I'll take you at your word, that making blackpowder is punishable by 4 years in jail.
It is not illegal to make small quantities of black powder, see paragraph ( 34 ).
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/C.R.C.-C.599/page-4.html#anchorbo-ga:l_IV
http://laws.justice.gc.ca/eng/C.R.C.-C.599/page-4.html#anchorbo-ga:l_IV
