Voere .308 ...help identify this rifle

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I am lucky enough to have recently come into possession of the Voere .308 you see here.

Trouble is, I can't figure out what the model is, and i can't find any really distinguishing markings, just "Voere Kufstein Austria" and ".308", along with the serial number.

the letter from the CFC calls it a "sporter" however when i google this i don't seem to come up with what i'm looking for.

These guns were my grandfathers, and he's had them for YEARS (at least 20, possibly 30 or 40).

Anyway, any help from you gun gurus would be really appreciated.

also, if you've got any idea what it's worth that'd be cool info to know as well, but it's moot because i will never part with this gun (or the .22 above it...also a Voere, and also from my grandfather).

Thanks!

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Possibly model 2100, not to be confused with Voere Of Voehrenbach W. Germany which asso. w/Krico and/or Mauser. Most Voeres of Kufstein Aus. used commercial Mauser Actions and the ones that I saw/used all had heavy trigger pulls.
 
Also, i believe that Voere in Germany was the same company as Voere in Austria, they just seemed to move production to different areas at different times. I may be wrong, however.

maybe the quality varried as well, however i'm quite impressed with these rifles, and have heard good things esp. about the 22lr.

Thanks!
 
My cousin has the identical rifle except his is a heavy barrel .300 Weatherby Magnum. His is a very accurate rifle and the only drawback is heavy recoil. Someone routed out a channel in the forend under the barrel and filled it with lead also drilled the butt and filled it with lead. Weighs around 12 lbs. and he wouldn't sell it for any sensible price, he has shot a few moose with it, some at ridiculously long range.
 
Voere in 308

I have the same rifle in 6.5X55 Voere mauser.
These are very nice rifles. The trigger on mine was heavy until I stripped the rifle down, the trigger is not the common mauser style. It has an external spring that can be changed to achieve the weight you want. The rifle I have is light and scoped weighs 8lbs. One of my favorite rifles for deer.
Price I would guess around 600.oo.
 
Thanks for the info guys. Any other info or feedback on Voere's is very welcome. I'm just beginning to learn about this make...i had never heard of it before i got these guns.
 
I have the same Voere as well, but mine is in 7mm Rem Mag. I have owned it since new. It came from a shop in Edmonton ( Wildcat Guns ), around 1969 I think. It was my first big game rifle, and my only for a number of years. It is quite light, and as a result, was fairly big on muzzle jump and recoil until I had a muzzle brake put on it by Corlanes in Dawson Creek 8 or 10 years ago. I currently have about a dozen rifles that could serve as moose/deer/bear guns, but the Voere in 7mm is most often my "go to" for larger game, or when I'm expecting longer shots. It's accurate, reliable, and more importantly I suppose, very familiar to me after all the time we've spent together. I never really thought of the trigger as heavy, but compared to some of the more recent acquisitions, I guess it is a bit stiff. I too would put the value at $500-$600, but like yours, mine is not likely to come up for sale any time soon.
 
I have a very similar rifle, except mine has a hood over the front sight, a military floorplate and is in .30-06. It has a modified military trigger (a screw has been added to the bottom of it, to help reduce first stage trigger travel, but is has no influence on trigger weight.

I just got mine and have only put 20 rounds trough it, but was able to get groups of about 1" at 100m. It is supposed to be Voere's Model 2155, or their basic rifle based on the Mauser M98 action.

Question for the other guys here who own one: how is the bolt travel in yours? Mine has the roughest, most imprecise and loose working bolt I've ever seen. I have 3 other rifles based on Mauser 9X actions, a Swedish M96, a Turkish M38 and a Winchester M70; all much, much smoother than this Voere is. Even the rough, ugly duckling Turkish is much smoother than my Voere is. :(
 
"roughest, most imprecise and loose working" ...sounds like a pretty good description of the bolt travel in my Voere as well, though I must say it's never given me a bit of trouble, misfeeding or otherwise during my 40 or so years of ownership.
 
icedog said:
"roughest, most imprecise and loose working" ...sounds like a pretty good description of the bolt travel in my Voere as well, though I must say it's never given me a bit of trouble, misfeeding or otherwise during my 40 or so years of ownership.
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Actually I think it's a fair description of a mauser, still the best rifle action around.
 
looks to be close to the 2100-2150s. i had a 2150 in .30-06 which had an adjustable trigger. it grouped about 1" at 100m with heavier bullets. i'm kicking myself for selling it!
 
In the 1960s a Voere 22 rimfire came out, a beautiful looking firearm, just reeking in quality.
By the time it had fired two boxes of shells, 100, the bolt closeure was so loose you could wiggle the bolt back and forth with it locked in place. The rifle was returned.
I touched the receiver, where the bolt handle locked, with a file and found it was the softest of metals.
I then took a cheap Mossberg and touched the file to the same area, where the bolt handle locked. It was as hard as glass.
Not saying all Voeres are no good, just relating what one 22 rimfire was like.
 
traderal said:
I have the exact same 22 . Very accurate and should have been used by Weatherby as their rifle. Bought it new for $99 and Won't sell it.
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yeah I took both guns out to the range on wednesday, and I'm really VERY pleased with both of them.

I was able to get pretty tight, consistent groups with the .22 at approx 50 yards with just the iron sights.

I only fired 5 rounds through the .308 but the consistency was remarkable to me...and I'm not used to firing rifle really...got my feet wet in firearms using handguns :). The recoil is something i have to get used to though...

Thanks for the thoughts and comments everyone, I very much appreciate them.

Cheers!
 
Mike Webb said:
Actually I think it's a fair description of a mauser, still the best rifle action around.
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I know how a Mauser 98 is supposed to feel like, this is my 4th one and I am just comparing it to my other 3. Actually, I shouldn't really include my Winchester M70 in this comparison, since in machining and finish it is light years ahead of any of these Mausers. I am comparing my Voere to my other Mausers, though.

When compared to my Swedish M96, my M96 is infinitely smoother, more reliable and much better machined and finished. I know, theoretically not as strong, but I've never had any problems with it on that respect. And I have blown primers clear off the brass in it, leaving the primer pocket so large it could have been 1mm larger than the primer which was blown out.

But what really drives me nuts is when I compare my Voere against my old, rough, very ugly looking Turkish M38. The M38 is much smoother, works more reliably and, although it has a practically scrap military barrel on it and is set in a bubbaed military stock, still shoots groups similar to those from the Voere.

My Voere also has another problem; it works as a push feed half of the time. The bolt is so loose in the receiver, that half of the time the rounds, especially those feeding from the left side, just pop out of the magazine and in front of the extractor. If the bolt is held at the precise needed angle (easy to do when working the bolt with the butt stock under my right armpit, but almost impossible from the shoulder), it feeds correctly. But put the wrong pressure on the bolt handle and you will put the bolt and extractor in the wrong angle, and the round will just pop up in front of the extractor.

One last thing I don't like about it is that the bottom of the ball on the bolt handle has been ground flat. I don't like that, since half of the time I work the bolt from the shoulder my hand just slips off it. This is a personal gripe, I know, but I just prefer the complete ball on the bolt, especially one as rough working as this one is.

I just got this rifle, so I am willing to give it a chance. But if I can't get it to feed properly and make it a bit smoother, it'll just have to go. It'd be a pity if it came to that, though. I really like the looks of it and the feel of the stock, plus it shoots quite nicely. But I still see no reason for keeping it, if I can't improve it, when I could have a Winchester or a Ruger which will work properly, for the same amount of money I paid for this Voere. Just my personal opinion, though. I am glad you guys are so happy with your Voere's, it kind of gives me hopes. :)
 
Some are VG others are a PITA.

The lower grade (2155) usually is more sloppy than the the higher grade 2165.
If your bolt does not firmly grab the case head, it's usually a sign of either wrong charger lips tension or extractor pooly fitted (or bubbaed).
You still can try another bolt, but if the loose comes from the receiver, then, it's almost impossbile to fit. Are you sure your bolt is the original that came with this rifle?
While they are beautiful rifles, I experienced funny problems with the Voere (like and almost impossible match for Weaver-type base fitting...).
One must remember that Voere is a "revamper" of old military actions -and the supply only goes down - but it seems the highest grades made in the '70s used commercial M/98 actions.
The quality of the actions used seems to vary a lot over time.
I have one 2165 here and the quality is fair.
 
Hi there, Baribal!

Let me answer you question by saying that unfortunately, Voere did a very good job of erasing any markings that would allow us to trace this rifle. There isn't one single visible original marking on the outside, and the only marks I could find were hidden on the bottom of the action. They were an A and traces of an H, but that was it. I haven't had the time to search with a magnifying glass all around it, so I may find fainter/smaller marks later. So, there is no way for me to know if this is the original bolt for this action.

The only number I could find on the bolt was a 67, at the root of the bolt handle, right on the top. It does not match the serial number at all, however it does appear on the right side of the front receiver bridge and on the right side of the barrel next to the action. So I do believe these three parts (action, barrel and bolt) did come assembled as one complete rifle from the Voere factory.

There is one thing I'd like to add, though. The Voere bolt does not have the long rib on the top of the bolt's body, like the Turkish M38 and the Swedish M96. I thought all M98 bolts had that rib, so that might explain it. This may only be a cheaper made commercial action, but I don't really know.

I tried the extractor from my Turkish M38 on the Voere and it did seem to improve feeding a little bit, but not 100%. I also tried feeding 8x57mm rounds from the mag to the chamber, and they did feed more reliably, too. So I believe the feeding lips on the action have not been modified at all from the original 8mm Mauser rifle.

I also attempted to try the Turkish bolt in it, but unfortunately I cannot insert it all the way in, because the bolt shroud hits the side safety before the bolt can go all the way in. However, the Turkish bolt does seem to fit a little better in the Voere, with a little bit less slop.

I will start a new thread asking for advice, I think I have hijacked this one long enough. My apologies.
 
The one I have here and quite most all others I ever saw where quite well "buffed, so it's almost unlikely you may find a lot of the history of the action.

I never put any attention on looking at the guiding rib on the bolts, but if the rear bridge is made for one, then, you maybe should try another bolt and see what happens.
To be able to drove a replacement bolt into the receiver, you need to remove the bolt shroud first, wich is not hard to do.

OP - from what I see of your pic, it really looks like a 2155 variant.
They use to change a lot of "custom compnents" on theitr models over the year.

I'll post some pics of a 2165 for comparison later today.
 
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