Norinco 45 getting hot muzzle and *possibly* not shooting straight

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StylinMike

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Im very new at owning and shooting handguns. My aim, although not the best, is not overly horrible. At 10 yards my grouping is about 8 inches. Like I said....Im very new...and have maybe fired 500 rounds in my life.

Anyway, I have a Norinco 1911 in .45. I recently staked in a fiber optic front sight (not sure if this will be relevant or not). Anyway, I went to the shooting range with my girlfriend the other day and we put 100 rounds through the gun. The muzzle got quite hot and became slightly chalky (wiped away with fingers). Is this normal handgun behavior? Could it be attributed to the staked in sight being improperly installed? Also, the sight got hot enough that the ends of the fiber optic melted enough for it to become loose. The fiber optic rod is actually not original, as the original one broke. It is actually a rod from a tru-glo rifle sight (just the rod....not the sight...obviously).

Secondly, I found that most of my shots were all to the left. I know there is a 99.9% change this is because I'm an amateur and I'm pulling the gun on firing or a similar issue. Just making sure.

I know norinco's are fairly inaccurate out of the box. What are the best parts to change / get smithed to improve accuracy (trigger group?). Or is the gun more accurate than I can currently shoot (being a beginner).
 
I would suggest that you get some other shooters to try your gun. You need to know what accuracy your gun is currently capable of before you decide if the grouping is you or the gun.

As far as the gun getting hot, it is normal for it to get hot ( within reason ). The powder creates heat & also there is the friction of the bullet going down the barrel.
The " chalky " substance is probably carbon from the burnt powder & is normal.

As far as your shots being to the left, that could be that you are pulling the trigger to the side instead of straight back. It is very important for accuracy to have a firm, comfortable grip & to be consistent the way you shoot every shot.

As far as Norinco's being innacurate out of the box, that depends on what you consider as accurate. You are getting 8" groups at 10 yards. Most Norinco's I have seen will do better than that at 25 yards out of the box.

Is the gun more accurate than you right now ?? Probably. Not too many shooters can shoot to 100% of what the gun can do.

Have fun shooting but concentrate on the basics.
 
Juster said:
If your sights melt, that could affect accuracy, yes.
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You think?


How hot was it? How fast were you shooting. The front of the slide on my .45 glock will change colors, to white if I shoot fast enough. Doesn't seem to affect accuracy any, being that hot.

Try shooting as slow as possible, concentrating completely on the sights, and just pressing the trigger, but letting the actual trigger break surprise you. Once you can do that, and have about a 1-2 inch group at 10 yards, move your target back, or speed it up. Eventually, you'll get better, but only good practice will get you there. If you had a 22lr, that'd be great to practice with, I try to force myself to run at least twice as many 22's as centrefire.

Can a 1911 be dryfired safely? I know you need to baby the slide, or use snap caps. Hell just buy a bunch of snap caps, and dryfire the hell out if, while concentrating on the sights, and letting the trigger break surprise you. Also lets you practice malfunction drills.
 
StylinMike said:
...What are the best parts to change / get smithed to improve accuracy (trigger group?)...
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Get yourself a .22LR conversion kit, such as a Ciener, Kimber, Advantage Arms, Tactical Solutions, Marvel, STI, etc. (There is a used STI kit in the EE now.)

It will be the best money you've ever spent.
 
enefgee said:
Priceless, permission to sig line that?
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Sure, I was just bringing attention to the relevant issue in my merry way :).
If the gun has homemade sights, it is probably working very well or very badly. It is a symptom of an adventurous mind, which has variable results.
Trigger mods perhaps, but don't get the guy who installed the melting sights to do it.
 
Sights are from fusion fire arms, not home made. Im thinking the one end of the optic rod was probably not melted enough on installation and thus became loose with a little heat. As far as the inaccuracy, im gonna say that it is most likely me pulling the trigger, as said. The heavy grind-like trigger im sure doesn't help, but is no excuse for my lack of experience. Looks like I need to get out there and fire more rounds! The 22 conversion slide is a good idea, I had looked into that before. That should definitely help with the cost deterrent of the 45s. Anyone have any websites they prefer for print out targets?
 
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