PGW Coyote

yes i have a pgw coyote and the accuracy is very good but not as good as the dsr-1tactical (sorry)

"...The Armes & Tir test shooters used RUAG target cartridges and could shoot 200 x 300 mm (0.69 x 1.03 MOA) groups at 1,000 m distance with a .338 Lapua Magnum chambered DSR-1 rifle..."

Do you own one?
 
What's a dsr-1tactical? Pics?

Google is your friend :)

"The DSR-1 is a compact bolt-action rifle designed, manufactured and marketed by the German company DSR-Precision GmbH and was (until 2004) marketed also by the German company AMP Technical Services as a specialized sniper rifle for police sharpshooters. It has been adopted by the German GSG 9 counter-terrorist unit, as well as by other European special police units and agencies."

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yes i have a pgw coyote and the accuracy is very good but not as good as the dsr-1tactical (sorry)

That's ok...;)

I think the term accuracy is widely misunderstood. Any rifle can be accurate but to claim that a certain make/model is more accurate based on a single (or other small sampling) unit is likely not accurate (excuse the pun).

During the F Class shoot facility tour I showed some people what real accuracy data looks like...It looks like hundreds of pages of excel spreadsheets with real world firing data input over several years witnessed by independent third party inspectors....This data is also supported by hundreds of actual targets fired at 300m in every condition imaginable....

Now I suspect (but will likely never be able to prove lol) our COYOTE system would be hard for any SWS to beat in accuracy over a long term multi-sampling evaluation...
 
That's ok...;)

I think the term accuracy is widely misunderstood. Any rifle can be accurate but to claim that a certain make/model is more accurate based on a single (or other small sampling) unit is likely not accurate (excuse the pun).

During the F Class shoot facility tour I showed some people what real accuracy data looks like...It looks like hundreds of pages of excel spreadsheets with real world firing data input over several years witnessed by independent third party inspectors....This data is also supported by hundreds of actual targets fired at 300m in every condition imaginable....

Now I suspect (but will likely never be able to prove lol) our COYOTE system would be hard for any SWS to beat in accuracy over a long term multi-sampling evaluation...

Let alone that Coyote is way better looking rifle (for my taste, at least :p)
 
yes i have one in black; is it worth $16500.with out taxs ( yes )20 years of shooting i have owned a lot of good 308s i mean good guns . sold them all i am now left with is one pgw coyote one dsr-1 in 308 would not sell them very accurate guns the two of them
 
That's ok...;)

I think the term accuracy is widely misunderstood. Any rifle can be accurate but to claim that a certain make/model is more accurate based on a single (or other small sampling) unit is likely not accurate (excuse the pun).

During the F Class shoot facility tour I showed some people what real accuracy data looks like...It looks like hundreds of pages of excel spreadsheets with real world firing data input over several years witnessed by independent third party inspectors....This data is also supported by hundreds of actual targets fired at 300m in every condition imaginable....

Now I suspect (but will likely never be able to prove lol) our COYOTE system would be hard for any SWS to beat in accuracy over a long term multi-sampling evaluation...


I KNOW what those guns can do in the right hands and with a tuned load and they are as accurate a rifle as you will find in its class.

Sorry, but if I had $16,500.00 to spend on SWS guns, it would be THREE Coyotes.

I bought a lotto Max ticket tonight because i want the entire Canadian National team to be shooting PGW rigs witht he funky maple leaf!!!!

Can you mke them in red and white?;)
 
Sorry about the thread hi-jacking, but...

That's ok...;)

I think the term accuracy is widely misunderstood. Any rifle can be accurate but to claim that a certain make/model is more accurate based on a single (or other small sampling) unit is likely not accurate (excuse the pun).

AGREED! Its misunderstood because people don't know the difference between accuracy and precision...

Accuracy : Described as how close to the bullseye a given shot is placed.
Precision : Described as the repeatability of successive shot placement.

A 0.5MOA claim by a firearm manufacturer, is a statement of precision, not accuracy.

Accuracy has more to do with the shot landing where the shooter intended it to hit. A precision rifle in the hands of a new shooter will most likely be quite in-accurate. while the same rifle in the hands of a trained sharp-shooter, will be very accurate.

You can be precise without accuracy, however, it is very difficult to be accurate without precision.
 
Thanks for the WIKI answer..........

Those are my words. Here is the Wiki answer :

Accuracy is the degree of veracity while precision is the degree of reproducibility.[citation needed] The analogy used here to explain the difference between accuracy and precision is the target comparison. In this analogy, repeated measurements are compared to arrows that are shot at a target. Accuracy describes the closeness of arrows to the bullseye at the target center. Arrows that strike closer to the bullseye are considered more accurate. The closer a system's measurements to the accepted value, the more accurate the system is considered to be.

To continue the analogy, if a large number of arrows are shot, precision would be the size of the arrow cluster. (When only one arrow is shot, precision is the size of the cluster one would expect if this were repeated many times under the same conditions.) When all arrows are grouped tightly together, the cluster is considered precise since they all struck close to the same spot, even if not necessarily near the bullseye. The measurements are precise, though not necessarily accurate.

However, it is not possible to reliably achieve accuracy in individual measurements without precision—if the arrows are not grouped close to one another, they cannot all be close to the bullseye. (Their average position might be an accurate estimation of the bullseye, but the individual arrows are inaccurate.) See also circular error probable for application of precision to the science of ballistics.

Or you could just watch my videos...

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Cool video and your point is taken but I am pretty sure everybody understood what was being discussed even before your post...
 
I'm just trying to help clear the mud. The internet seems to be loaded with piles of BS, laced with a little truth. To much keyboeard time, not enough trigger time. My videos are intended to HELP make sense of it all. Of course I am relatively new to the sport, so I may be making it worse.

Back on topic, I was impressed by the build qualty of the Timberwolf I saw at a gun show. I imagine the Coyote lives up to the same. I would love the oppertunity to see one in action. Don't have the budget to own one myself.
 
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