1871 Remington Rolling Block NY Militia ???

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Recently acquired a 1871 Remington Rolling Block in 50/70 with all the ear marks of a NY Militia Contract, but no Cartouche is present on the stock. This one appears unaltered (accept for the black paint) and has 165 Stamped in the stock like a rack number. I have found what appears to be a serial and assembly number on the sides of the tangs under the stock. There is no evidence that the stock has been sanded or switched. Were some of these sold under private treaty?

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tjsudbury said:
I would suspect that the butt stock has been replaced at some time. There should be seversl cartouches, including a boxed SNY just below the receiver on the right wrist.
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It may have, but it sure looks original in colour and fit.

Thanks for the information-was there ever any markings on the steel parts?

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jpc
 
I have examined RBs with the NY action but without the inspector's marks. I believe they were sold to other than NY.
 
green said:
I have examined RBs with the NY action but without the inspector's marks. I believe they were sold to other than NY.
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No, I don't believe that they were. The New York State rifles are the ONLY Remington made rolling blocks with the half #### safety, and the long hammer spur. (Springfield Armory also made some for the US navy). Any that you find without the cartouches would have been re-stocked. My scource for this is the recently published book "Remington Rolling Block Military Rifles of the World" by George Layman.

As to markings on the action, nothing special to distinguish if from any other action. They can be roll marked on the tang with either a final patent date of Nov. 7, 1871, or march 18, 1874, depending on if they are from the first or second order.

The distinguishing features are the long hammer spur, which this rifle does have, and the saftey #### feature (not really a half ####, as they are mostly described as, but more like an additional 3/4 #### notch, that does indeed lock the trigger when the breach block is closed)
 
The distinguishing features are the long hammer spur, which this rifle does have, and the saftey #### feature (not really a half ####, as they are mostly described as, but more like an additional 3/4 #### notch, that does indeed lock the trigger when the breach block is closed)[/QUOTE]



This one has all of the above and thanks for your research and help.
Re-stocked and re-issued maybe?

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jpc
 
This one has all of the above and thanks for your research and help.
Re-stocked and re-issued maybe?

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Or just simply restocked by the regimental armorer and handed back to the militia member. You still have a nice piece, though it does need a good cleaning. What's the bore like?

Because these rifles were not sold off by the New York Militia untill after single shots went out of style, most survive in good shape. Bubba never really got to these ones
 
jpc said:
What's the bore like?

The bore is a Mirror and the action is very crisp. It is quite a unique safety system for someone not familiar with it :)
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Mine has a mirror bore also, a very good shooter.

Just be sure that you don't over clean. Don't remove the patina. Most of these were issued "in the white", but they can be found in different combinations of blued/case hardened/white metal
 
These are lots of fun to shoot.

Mine was won in a poker game in 1919 and spent 40 years shooting seals before the original owner ran out of ammo.

Needless to say, my barrel is NOT pristine.... but it still shoots.
 
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