I've put a few hundred reloads through my Garand. Worked up a load using 4064 and Hornady 165 gr SP's. This is a midrange load. Fooled around with Hornady 150 FMJ's (cheaper) and 150 SP's. Tried 4895, Varget and R15. I'm back shooting my original load of 4064 and 165's. The old girl can keep 5 rds between 2 and 2 1/2" at 100 yds on a regular basis. She was born in the early 50's and I am a couple years older than she is!!!