I am new to the AR's so cut me some slack for stupidity. Is there a way to stack optics on the AR-15. I shot a guys Tavor out at the range a few weeks ago and he had a red dot mounted to the rail zeroed at 50yards and a scope stacked on top of that zeroed at 100yards. I realize this adds significant height but it worked so nice. I know there are multi mounts out there to add to each side but the stacked worked so nice.
AR-15 double optic mount
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Some optics like Trijicons you can do that with... There are also certain scopes and scope mounts that add rail to on top of the scope and mount a red dot...
OR You can mount an optic on the 12o'clock position... and then get a 1 o'clock mount and put a red dot kind of canted..
OR You can mount an optic on the 12o'clock position... and then get a 1 o'clock mount and put a red dot kind of canted..
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How's about Burris (or similar) tactical mounts for your main scope, with the additional rail at 1200o'clock. Then a reflex sight on top of that. If you don't mind the weight and like the look...
There are a lot of options out there for a setup similar to what you're talking about. But honestly, there are big downsides to multi-optic weapons.
1st weight
2nd height above bore considerations
3rd Training required
The third point is really the big one. Under stress, (and I've seen this with the trijicon with red dot attached) people tend to go to the sight they use the most ie their main optic. Utilizing the top mounted red dot also means breaking your cheek weld, resulting in an unnatural, awkward position behind the weapon.
You're better off with either a) training, shooting, and training some more with the optic on your weapon to offset the disadvantages of using a magnified optic up close, or a red dot at long range. Or b) Look at a variable power optic, capable of dialing down to a true 1x (or close to it).
My $0.02. I am firmly in the variable optic camp.
1st weight
2nd height above bore considerations
3rd Training required
The third point is really the big one. Under stress, (and I've seen this with the trijicon with red dot attached) people tend to go to the sight they use the most ie their main optic. Utilizing the top mounted red dot also means breaking your cheek weld, resulting in an unnatural, awkward position behind the weapon.
You're better off with either a) training, shooting, and training some more with the optic on your weapon to offset the disadvantages of using a magnified optic up close, or a red dot at long range. Or b) Look at a variable power optic, capable of dialing down to a true 1x (or close to it).
My $0.02. I am firmly in the variable optic camp.
I think your right about the training aspect... But that can be worked around... Dry practice in your living room is all it takes to get you going in the right direction.
Personally, I don't run a multi optic system just due to the weight... However, I dont really have a problem with a twist on magnifier for a red dot. As long as you dont think you will need to constantly taking the magnifier on and off then I think its a good option.
Personally, I don't run a multi optic system just due to the weight... However, I dont really have a problem with a twist on magnifier for a red dot. As long as you dont think you will need to constantly taking the magnifier on and off then I think its a good option.
I run an eotech with an aimpoint magnifier on couple of my rigs, one with a flip mount and the other with a twist mount. Then on my other rig I run an elcan spectre dr 1x4 optic....
Both systems are great, I personally prefer the elcan but It can be a little heavy for some and pricey. The red dot with a flip or twist mount for the magnifier can be a lot cheaper and you can save a few ounces on weight.
I have used 2 optics together on my rifles in the past and quite frankly, I hated it..
But again .... It's a personal choice
Both systems are great, I personally prefer the elcan but It can be a little heavy for some and pricey. The red dot with a flip or twist mount for the magnifier can be a lot cheaper and you can save a few ounces on weight.
I have used 2 optics together on my rifles in the past and quite frankly, I hated it..
But again .... It's a personal choice
You are talking about my Tavor (I think). The weight is not much as I am using the Burris Fast Fire II (the red dot). Of course, you can pay more and get a Doctor but the Burris works for me. Under the Burris is a mount to work with a Pictin rail. Burris makes a top scope ring with a short Pictin rail. The rest is a scope and a regular bottom Burris ring.
Now I went overkill for the scope (I have a 2.5-10X). If you are concerned with weight, you can get a 1-4X scope. Also, I kept the Tavor BUIS so I am using the tallest ring to clear the BUIS. If you are using an AR, I am sure you can use a set of lower rings.
