Best twist rate for 155 Lapua - 308 Win

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I'm putting a new barrel on a 308 Win for up to 1000 yard target shooting and the barrel maker is recomending a 13" twist for the 155 Lapua, but most articles I have read lately suggest that 13 is ok but 12 is better. The barrel maker has a 13" in stock and I can get it right away, but if I want a 12, I need to wait 20 weeks.

Since the Lapua is the longest of the group of 155s, have you guys had any accuracy issues with a 13" twist barrel when using 155 Lapuas? If 13 is ok, then it's ok right... or is it?
 
I'm putting a new barrel on a 308 Win for up to 1000 yard target shooting and the barrel maker is recomending a 13" twist for the 155 Lapua, but most articles I have read lately suggest that 13 is ok but 12 is better. The barrel maker has a 13" in stock and I can get it right away, but if I want a 12, I need to wait 20 weeks.

Since the Lapua is the longest of the group of 155s, have you guys had any accuracy issues with a 13" twist barrel when using 155 Lapuas? If 13 is ok, then it's ok right... or is it?
For 155gr bullets up to 168gr the 13" twist is OK depended on bullet speed of course, for bullets up to 190gr you need 12" twist, any heavier bullet than that and 10" twist is called for but 308 Win doesn't do well with those heavyweights. The trend is for longer and heavier VLD bullets in the future so minimum 12" twist makes more sense.
 
A 13" twist would be just fine for that and any palma bullet. There are shooters that even use 14" twists for Palma bullets.

I would tend to suggest a tight Palma bore though. (.298 X .3075)
 
The 1-13" will work with the 155's, but I would not handcuff myself to the 155 cart, when new and better bullets keep coming onto the market. I'd hold out for a 1-12".
 
1-15 is fine

As Ian and Richard both have said I run 155 SMKs through a 1-15 twist. It helps that I am using a 300 WSM burning 61 gr of Varget. Velocity is 3240 fps and works just fine.
 
My McLennan is 1-13" and shoots the GB491 very well. More important is the chamber and a little longer than the Obermeyer is probably best, such as the "Rule 150 " spec reamer.
 
^^^sideways impacts? That combo could work only with the bullet speed in excess of 3100-3200FPS in 300Win or Weatherby. Just guessing.

http://kwk.us/twist.html

FYI,

180 SMK is 1.277" long and runs around 2700-2750 fps in most guns. For some reason, people use Waaaaaaaaaaaay more twist than they require in .308

I have more requests for 10" twists in 308 barrels than any other twist, and I have no idea why.
 
http://kwk.us/twist.html

FYI,

180 SMK is 1.277" long and runs around 2700-2750 fps in most guns. For some reason, people use Waaaaaaaaaaaay more twist than they require in .308

I have more requests for 10" twists in 308 barrels than any other twist, and I have no idea why.
I agree, 10" twist in 308 Win doesn't make sense, but there is no way that 180gr SMK will be stabilised in 14" twist in 308 Win acording to Ganderite. 2750FPS for 308Win with that bullet? Even 3006 has a hard time to reach that without "Ackley" pressures in normal barrels. According to Greenhill formula taking liberal #170 as constant you need at least 12,6" twist to acomplish minimum stabilisation of that bullet.
 
I like fast twist barrels for a bunch of reasons and I'm at a loss to understand why some folks have such an aversion to them. Spin drift is a constant that can be adjusted for with any degree of twist, and it is seldom that a fast twist barrel will degrade the accuracy of a medium weight bullet. But if you come across a very long bullet such as a heavy VLD or MK, the normally suggested 1:12 or 1:14 .308 won't cut it. My .308 wears a 28" 1:8 Krieger and I get a hair under 2700 fps with a 200 gr MK, (the throat is cut long so the bullet does not extend into the powder capacity of the case) so the fast twist doesn't appear to have a negative impact on velocity. Similarly my old .222 had a 1:7 Gaillard that would shoot tiny groups with 52 gr MKs even though I had acquired it to try some of the new heavy long range bullets that were beginning to appear. The only bullet this rifle would not shoot consistently were the thin skin varmint bullets like the Hornady SX and the Sierra Blitz, which in 50 gr would simply become a cloud of dust midway to the target, so the 52 gr Mk became my light bullet of choice.

Besides all that though, if you load a good quality bullet, a faster spinning bullet produces superior terminal performance. The explosive effect on varmints is increased, incidents of ricochets are decreased, and big game bullets penetrate deeper. With slower twist barrels though I have often had problems with bullets that failed to stabilize. The 107 gr MK will not stabilize in my 1:10 Lilja .243, never mind the 115 I'd like to try. The 240 gr Woodleigh will not stabilize in my wife's 1:12 .30/06. 53 gr TSXs will not stabilize in a 1:14 .22-250. If you are only going to shoot one bullet weight, then sure, pic the twist that is ideal for that bullet, but most of us want to use a wide selection of bullets for each cartridge we load for, and despite the fact that any twist will stabilize a wide range of bullet weights and styles, choosing a slow twist is more limiting to the range of bullets you can shoot than choosing a faster twist.
 
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