Help Requested - jammed CZH 2003

jjbkozack said:
in picture 5/11 i can see you have a broken case, i had that happen to my sks, lucky enough i had a broken shell extractor on me in my cleaning kit and it popped out with ease
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I don't think that pic is of the rifle in question.

lone-wolf said:
I'd just hit the bolt handle with a 2x4 and have a rag or something in the rear to cushion the receiver when it flys back. I had to smack them pretty hard to get a broken case out.
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That's should work. If you can find something to set the bolt handle against while you're leaning into the rifle, that might work too. It may take a sharp rap to get it moving, though.

As always, keep in mind the advice you're getting is based on similar experiences and may not be exactly applicable to your situation.
 
jjbkozack said:
in picture 5/11 i can see you have a broken case, i had that happen to my sks, lucky enough i had a broken shell extractor on me in my cleaning kit and it popped out with ease
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j
all the photos that lone wolf posted were of my rifle. Where do you see the broken case?

Tomorrow I will give the mallet and
rag a try.
 
i use the same method that loneW uses. a 2x4 about foot long , wack the handle several times, the extractor should disengage, exposing the back of the ammo. i use electrician tape to protect the finish.

please be careful where you are pointing the muzzle cos you still got live round in there.
 
Thanks the 2x4 method worked well. However now there is a live round stuck in the chamber. Obviously I did not clean the chamber well enough. Lesson learned.

I did search on this and most of the advice is to pound rod down the barrel, but in my case there is a live round in the chamber with a weak primer hit on it. I have tried needle nose vice grips. Any thoughts? I was thinking of drilling out the primer and inserting a large screw to grab on to it. But I am weary of drilling a live
non fired primer. Any thoughts? The barrel is soaking in laquer thinner right now.
 
Dbryan said:
Thanks the 2x4 method worked well. However now there is a live round stuck in the chamber. Obviously I did not clean the chamber well enough. Lesson learned.

I did search on this and most of the advice is to pound rod down the barrel, but in my case there is a live round in the chamber with a weak primer hit on it. I have tried needle nose vice grips. Any thoughts? I was thinking of drilling out the primer and inserting a large screw to grab on to it. But I am weary of drilling a live
non fired primer. Any thoughts? The barrel is soaking in laquer thinner right now.
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I dont see problem using a rod to pop the round off because you wont it the primer itself. I would not try drilling a live primer...better be safe than sorry. If you have a sturdy rod wrapped with tape to protect the bore and a mallet,the round could be driven out of chamber,just remember to keep the muzzle in safe direction,not in your face. Its only my opinion, i never have this problem and others fellows CGN could give you better or safer advice than mine.
 
Stevo said:
It was another pic in lone-wolf's online album that showed the broken case.
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ohh another gun in the pic,,, whoops

I would highly suggest you DONT DRILL THE PRIMER, this could set it off, id keep away from the primer myself

in my sks when the casing broke another round was pushed into its place and took some force to get out, i got it out with a flatblade screwdriver, using the screwdriver as a pry-bar in the rim of the cartridge and the handle of my cleaning rod between the gun and screwdriver shaft
 
Problem solved.

I made a rod and wrapped it with electricians tape. Then pounded the bullet backwards using solvent to hydrolock the round out of the chamber. Felt
pretty sketchy though.

A huge round of thanks to all who replied. I learned my lesson. Clean the chamber!!!!
 
Dbryan said:
Problem solved.

I made a rod and wrapped it with electricians tape. Then pounded the bullet backwards using solvent to hydrolock the round out of the chamber. Felt
pretty sketchy though.

A huge round of thanks to all who replied. I learned my lesson. Clean the chamber!!!!
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good to hear , you might even wanna attach the wire brush to an electric drill .
 
Dbryan said:
Problem solved.

I made a rod and wrapped it with electricians tape. Then pounded the bullet backwards using solvent to hydrolock the round out of the chamber. Felt
pretty sketchy though.

A huge round of thanks to all who replied. I learned my lesson. Clean the chamber!!!!
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Excellent. Clean it and check it for burrs, too.
 
Ok,

So I did the 12 ga. brush on the end of the electric drill thing, steel wool, bore solvent, bore brush, about 20 patches or so with the last 4 coming out clean, guess what??

It still jammed!!! The round still stuck in the chamber and the extractor broke off part of the casing......

So, I did the hammer and solvent thing again, extracted the round, (getting good at this..) examined the casing; I was thinking there must be a burr or something, but the case is perfect, no scratching, still seems round. The chamber looks perfect.

The cartridge does not seem to want to go all the way into the chamber, it sticks out about 2-3mm, and gets jammed in there HARD.

Any other thoughts? I am thinking I will be calling the retailer who I bought the rifle off of tomorrow.

Perhaps the chamber was not machined correctly? Has this happened before?

Thanks.

Dave
 
Was the rifle brand new when you got it? Have you got a good look in the chamber? A dentists mirror and a flashlight can be a handy tool to see into all the nooks and crannies.
 
Stevo said:
As in too little headspace? I don't think that would cause an unfired round to stick in the chamber.:confused:
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I didn't think so, but it's not swallowing a live round, and isn't that what too little headspace would do? Although it does seem more excessive than what I assume it'd look like.
 
lone-wolf said:
I didn't think so, but it's not swallowing a live round, and isn't that what too little headspace would do? Although it does seem more excessive than what I assume it'd look like.
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It does seem excessive for tight headspace. It sounds more like a broken case stuck in the chamber but if he's cleaned and inspected the chamber that's unlikely too.
 
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