Ruger 10/22 target vs CZ or Savage heavy barrel??

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I have been looking at getting a good quality target .22lr rifle for my next gun. I really just wanted to know from anyone who has experience with these rifles.

Is a Ruger 10/22 Target rifle as accurate as a bolt action heavy barrel .22lr, such as a cz 452 Varmint, or a Savage Mark 2 BV heavy barrel??

I would like to have a competitive .22lr rifle out of the box without doing any major upgrades right away.

If anyone has any other good suggestions for a competetive .22lr rife, I am all ears.
 
I have one and it is really accurate but in no way is it going to compare to the CZ's and Savage. I believe it is more fun because I can have 25 round mags and such, but if I wanted strictly accuracy Id be looking to the CZ's. If it is the tactical look you want go with the Savage MK II TR!
 
I am really just looking at getting the most accurate .22lr that I can. I am pretty new competetive .22lr rifles. I have had a Ruger in the past, and I know that there is a big following of people who customize there 10/22, thats why I wanted to know if it can be as accurate as a CZ or Savage.

So now that I know that a Ruger 10/22 is'nt as accurate as a Bolt action, my next big question is....Which Bolt action rifle should I get??? CZ 452Varmint...CZ455american...CZ455Lux...or one of the various other Savage Mark 2 rifles with accutrigger????
 
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If you want to spend the money, you can buy the CZ 452 Varmint.

However, we use the Savage heavy barreled Accutrigger laminated thumbhole stock .22 for our gopher shooting. With a mildot scope on top, hits at amazing ranges are possible. On a rare Manitoba "no wind" condition a couple of weeks ago, we decided not to shoot anything under 75 yards, and we were reaching way out.

My hunting partner gave up his 10-22 and bought a Savage BVTS after he saw what mine would do. On the above occasion, I spotted and ranged for him, and he hit four of those small gophers at a range of 139 yards *(laser rangefinder) before he missed one.

When I complemented him on his shooting, he admitted he was happy with it. He also said that before he started hunting with me, he thought 75 yards was a long shot, but then I started shooting them at longer ranges. His most often remark was that I shot them in the next Postal Code.
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cz or savage, better chance of not getting a dud like with the ruger, my real vote goes to the CZ just because i like them better not necessarily because they are more accurate.
 
I have done quite a lot of research in the last few hours on this website and on others. It seems that the CZ is best quality, accurate, rimfire rifle for under $600. I have made my decision to buy a CZ. I also own a CZ 75 9mm pistol, so I already have a good experience with there top quality firearms.

My biggest problem now is on what model to decide to get. Should I try to find a CZ 452 model, or get a newer CZ455??? Most of the comments that I have read about the CZ455, have not been positive.

If anyone knows of a good review of a CZ455, I would be interested in seeing a link.
 
blueflash said:
I have done quite a lot of research in the last few hours on this website and on others. It seems that the CZ is best quality, accurate, rimfire rifle for under $600. I have made my decision to buy a CZ. I also own a CZ 75 9mm pistol, so I already have a good experience with there top quality firearms.

My biggest problem now is on what model to decide to get. Should I try to find a CZ 452 model, or get a newer CZ455??? Most of the comments that I have read about the CZ455, have not been positive.

If anyone knows of a good review of a CZ455, I would be interested in seeing a link.
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All of the negativity on the 455 comes from guys that had yet to shoot the rifle. And all of it from fellows that like the 452 better. Lets face it CZ has been in the rifle building business for a great many years and they are not going to make a DUD rifle to replace the 452. FS
 
I have both a CZ 452 Varmint and a 'tricked out' 10/22. I think my stock Varmint is inherently more accurate. Although I haven't shot one, the 455 looks good to me and I wouldn't have any hesitation to buy one. I really don't think you can go wrong with either CZ. The only question you need to ask yourself is do you need a high cap magazine? If so, then it'll rule out the CZ's. Here's a link to a comparison of the 452 to the 455. Cheers.............

http://rimfireshooting.com/index.php?showtopic=5354
 
hate to be the spoiler for this one, but.... I have a few CZ's and a few 10-22's.
For gopher shooting, the 10/22 with a butler creek or green mountain barrel has edge for me. Accuracy wise, there is little difference, but the 10/22 guy can nail 3 of them while you're working the bolt or clip to hit one with a cz. The cz trigger with a yo-dave kit is a better trigger than any 10/22 I've tried, and that is nice.

This summer we were hitting gophers at well over 100 yds (100-200), with our 10/22's. Mind you, no 75 yard limit like mentioned above.
The fact is, with some 10/22's with a good butler creek barrel and 333s for example, you can shoot around 1" groups at 100 yds. Not all 10/22's can do it, but if you have one it's hard to switch back to a bolt action anything for gophers.

Don't forget, a 4-12x or slightly higher, high quality scope and mounts will be the best thing you can do to improve your gopher shooting.

The other factor, is finding a cheap hollowpoint ammo that shoots accurately, in either 10/22 or cz.

By the way, even if winchester xpert shoots the best (like it does in most of mine), it leave a sticky coating that leads to jams etc. Too bad it's so crappy.
Avoid that stuff.

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Thanks Misfire, for the link that compares the 455 to the 452. It was very thorough, and it put away any fears in my head about getting a 455. I figured that CZ would'nt all of a sudden switch from a awesome .22lr, to something that is not in the same class.

I have found a place that has some 452 Varmint models at a decent price, so I may just get one of those. I am going to go shoulder some this week, and odds are, one of them will be in my safe by the weekend.
 
I decided to build a 10/22 with a Dlask barrel and receiver, coupled with a VG trigger group. Haven't decided on the scope yet.
 
LarryG said:
hate to be the spoiler for this one, but.... I have a few CZ's and a few 10-22's.
For gopher shooting, the 10/22 with a butler creek or green mountain barrel has edge for me. Accuracy wise, there is little difference, but the 10/22 guy can nail 3 of them while you're working the bolt or clip to hit one with a cz. The cz trigger with a yo-dave kit is a better trigger than any 10/22 I've tried, and that is nice.

This summer we were hitting gophers at well over 100 yds (100-200), with our 10/22's. Mind you, no 75 yard limit like mentioned above.
The fact is, with some 10/22's with a good butler creek barrel and 333s for example, you can shoot around 1" groups at 100 yds. Not all 10/22's can do it, but if you have one it's hard to switch back to a bolt action anything for gophers.

Don't forget, a 4-12x or slightly higher, high quality scope and mounts will be the best thing you can do to improve your gopher shooting.

The other factor, is finding a cheap hollowpoint ammo that shoots accurately, in either 10/22 or cz.

By the way, even if winchester xpert shoots the best (like it does in most of mine), it leave a sticky coating that leads to jams etc. Too bad it's so crappy.
Avoid that stuff.

my .25c.
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I gotta go with LarryG on this one. I have 2 10-22's that have GM barrels, VQ hammer/extractors and both absolutely shoot the lights out with Rem YellowJacket and Winchester 555. The YellowJacket ammo I can get in Edmonton for $330/5000 and it is pure devastation on anything it touches. The Win 555 sells at Walmart for under $20. It has a nasty hollowpoint that is nearly as effective on gophers as the YellowJackets but at nearly half the cost and about 350 fps or so less than the YJ's. I've bought somewhere around 20 bricks of 555 this summer and will continue to stock up whenever I can find some. It's that good in my rifles...

I also own a LH CZ 452 in .17HMR. While a much prettier rifle to look at and handle, it isn't as accurate as my 10/22's. I've tried every available brand and bullet weight and can't seem to quite get to the magical 1/2" groups at 50 yds. I have yet to own or shoot a 452 in .22lr so I can't comment on the potential accuracy of this rifle in that calibre.
 
I have a few 10-22's myself and recently bought a Savage Mark II BTVS. Comparing it to a Target 10/22...Out of the box.... Savage Acutrigger kills the Ruger, the Savage is more accurate, the stock is much nicer (Thumbhole). Comparing a modified Ruger to a stock Savage is not a fair comparison however a modded 10/22 may shoot as good as the Savage but not better. The semi-Auto is cool though! I was so happy with the Savage I also bought a Savage in .17HMR!
 
I love my CZ 452 Varmint. You definitely won't go wrong with one. Two gophers in a row at a lasered 175 yards, with cheap American eagle hollow points. Tough to complain about that.
 
blueflash, if you want a semi that will shoot with the CZ 452 and Savage and outshoot the 10/22 for accuracy buy a Thompson Center r-55 all weather, they come with a shillen match barrel are very fussy about ammo, love cci and are every bit as accurate as the CZ's and Savages. The magazines sometimes need a little work as the feeding ramp is not always angled right and the bullets don't feet but once you get them figured out, there are not many rifles that will shoot with them for the price. Mine is 30% more accurate than my CZ 452 using cci minimags (great gopher getters).
 
If I were to buy an .22LR rifle now, it would either be a CZ452 16 inch barrel (American, I think) or a Savage MarkIIBV (or whatever it is they call the bull barrelled, laminate stocked non-thumbhole model) with Accutrigger.

The final determining factor would be is if I had the extra 200 bucks at the time, I'd go for the CZ. I'd be just as happy with the Savage but that may be because I already have a couple of CZ452s.
 
I do not have much time shooting CZ's but I have shot/handled a few and when comparing their bolt movement/operation etc... I prefer the Savage. Whether that is because I own a Savage and have simply become accustom to it vs the CZ I don't know. But I also own a 10/22 carbine etc and while I love it, the trigger is horrible compared to Savages accu-trigger.

So my vote goes to Savage.
 
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