My hunting rant

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So after reading a few threads over the past few weeks and espically the new "would you shoot a cat" one tonight made me relize how..sorry DUMB some of you are. You call each other names like children do, say things like so and so should not have a gun, ect. Thats a pretty harsh statment. You cause more issues then you are fixing. Some of you claim that these people who are willing to shoot a wild animal like a feral cat are gonna cost us our gun/hunting rights? BS. You guys fighting 24/7 and not being able to unite WILL do that for them. We on CGN fight on anything from being a Glock fan over a Sig or a semi over a pump and they turn pretty serious. Again liek school chlidren. If we used HALF the energy and time we fight against EACH OTHER and put all that towards moving forward, getting more and more people into the shooting sports we'd be much better off then we are.

The internet has made me relize two things about gun owners/hunters in Canada. 1) We all want more gun rights/freedoms and 2) we can never agree and get along together and we spend more time and effort fighting with each other then moving forward as one strong unit. On this route will WILL become like the UK, more then we already are.

This whole animal ranking system is BS. All animals are are just that. One is no better then the other. Yes some of you love your dog, cat, hamster, WHATEVER...but you do not have to hunt/shoot anything you do not want too. If someone else wants to hunt said animal you do not want to let them be and keep your comments to yourself! All this will do is creat a "approved" list by people who get all their info NOT from hunters of what we can and cannot hunt and that list will only ever get smaller over time. If the animal is not indangoured, and is killed quickly and humanly and depending what it is oyu killed is also eatten then so what? Even if you shoot a "gasp" wild cat and do nothing with it other animals will find it a helpful meal. Road kill is a ####ty thing but it is a solid food soure for many animals and think road kill will always have a much higher impact on wild life then hunters ever will. At least hunters we try and make the most of it.

In North America we all love cats and dogs...maybe a little too much. That lady that threw the cat into the garbage bin a few weeks ago was a ##### and it was wrong to do that BUT that makes the headlines and upsets people 100x more then all the kids that go to school each day hungry? All the families that are struggling due to job loss? Thats wrong to me. I am totally against animal abuse but I will always put people before animals. Its sad when people will pay more money for toys and healthcare for their pets then their own children.

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They call it a spirited debate. Sometimes the gloves come off but in the end issues are thoroughly discussed and every one walks away learning something.

Life isn't always singing campfire songs, holding hands and roasting weenies. So perhaps you might find some one with a big tractor and some logging chain to help pull that needle out of your arse.

Just kidding:D Have a great day and we welcome your input on all debates civil or uncivil as long as we stay in the rules.
 
I came to terms with how dumb some of you are a very long time ago. That is why I lurk more than I post. Very few threads are genuinely original, thought provoking or informative.

I debate enough during my day job, the thought of going at it with a bunch of strangers over shooting cats is not of interest. We have this kind of bullsh*t at my gun club as well,

My favourite themes are:

"you're instantly a Liberal if we disagree on something"
"you're a fudd if you think black guns are useless"
"you couldn't possibly know what you are talking about unless you live in a camper in the range parking lot like I do"
"everyone in Ontario is a schmuck"

These are just some of my favorites,

Cheers,

Patrick
 
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You are correct, in my opinion, we do go overboard in defending our positions on all topics. Spirited debate gives way to petty name calling. We are our own worse enemies because this site is not just for us. It is for anyone interested in the gun debate. If we act and talk like hillbillies then that is how we are portrayed. Everyone needs to be more aware of the unknown audience.
Not to be picky, but the other problem here, is that people don't reread their posts and correct their spelling and grammar. We are judged by our posts. Lets try to look like intelligent people.
 
Hunting anything, pro or con, is an emotional issue for supporters on either side of the argument. Maturity is measured by our ability to think through emotion rather than acting on it. Everyone believes his ethics are superior to those of his neighbor, but we should agree on some basic fundamental points. If hunting a particular animal is legal, we gain nothing by attacking those who participate in hunting that particular game, nuisance, or fur bearing animal. If hunting in a certain manner is legal, there is nothing to be gained by disparaging those who choose to hunt in that manner. If using a particular tool is legal, we do ourselves no service by bashing the person who chooses to use it. Finally, when we participate in a discussion of the finer points of hunting or shooting, we should argue the issues, not the personalities.
 
I still think we were just talking about shooting feral cats, not hunting them. Most I've seen are shot out of the back porch by the farmers, not someone covered in scentlok and face paint hunting them out of tree stands.
 
sherlockbonez said:
I still think we were just talking about shooting feral cats, not hunting them. Most I've seen are shot out of the back porch by the farmers, not someone covered in scentlok and face paint hunting them out of tree stands.
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New Jersey is talking about passing a law to allow the hunting of them under a hunter's small game license same as skunks.
 
Boomer said:
Hunting anything, pro or con, is an emotional issue for supporters on either side of the argument. Maturity is measured by our ability to think through emotion rather than acting on it. Everyone believes his ethics are superior to those of his neighbor, but we should agree on some basic fundamental points. If hunting a particular animal is legal, we gain nothing by attacking those who participate in hunting that particular game, nuisance, or fur bearing animal. If hunting in a certain manner is legal, there is nothing to be gained by disparaging those who choose to hunt in that manner. If using a particular tool is legal, we do ourselves no service by bashing the person who chooses to use it. Finally, when we participate in a discussion of the finer points of hunting or shooting, we should argue the issues, not the personalities.
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well said!
 
bedrock said:
I've heard of GunNutz being referred to as the teenage gun forum but maybe pre-school is closer to fact.
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So then the question that begs to be asked, what brings you here, I mean if you think that it is operating on a pre-school level, how did you manage to get so many posts? Could it be that you contribute to the pre school level of the forum, or do you hold yourself in a much higher regard than the rest of the world?
Either way, you just made one of the most hypocritical posts I have read. Posts like yours are the ones they are referring too, just so ya know.
 
I looked at the cat shooting post and couldn't read past the first few posts afterwards. It was not worth my time to read such a pointless thread. :(
 
You realize this is a discussion forum? People, you know, discuss things. Telling people to keep their comments to themselves kinda defeats the purpose of it.

That said, some of the arguements get way, way, outta place here.
 
Boomer said:
Hunting anything, pro or con, is an emotional issue for supporters on either side of the argument. Maturity is measured by our ability to think through emotion rather than acting on it. Everyone believes his ethics are superior to those of his neighbor, but we should agree on some basic fundamental points. If hunting a particular animal is legal, we gain nothing by attacking those who participate in hunting that particular game, nuisance, or fur bearing animal. If hunting in a certain manner is legal, there is nothing to be gained by disparaging those who choose to hunt in that manner. If using a particular tool is legal, we do ourselves no service by bashing the person who chooses to use it. Finally, when we participate in a discussion of the finer points of hunting or shooting, we should argue the issues, not the personalities.
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What he said^
 
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