Milsurps still in use

Thats Beretta sub machine gun

h ttp://w ww.deactivated-guns.co.uk/detail/beretta.htm

h ttp://world.guns.ru/smg/smg89-e.htm

One on the picture has a mag missing/removed
 
I've got to get a Hakim...

I don't understand why there are not more of those semi-auto battle rifles with the protruding 10-round magazine. I've always liked the way the Hakim and Ljungmann looked.

There are several:
-G43/K43
-FN-49
-MAS 49
-Tokarev SVT-40

The reason they weren't more common was that they were rapidly superseded by other battle rifles with a more modern layout (e.g. FAL and G3) and assault rifles.
 
Don't forget my favorite... the MG-42. Maybe not a milisurp but definitely a weapon with a long service history. You had the MG-42, basically a simplified, streamlined, easier to produce version of the MG-34.

MG42.jpg


The MG-42 is still in service to day as the MG-53, MG-1, MG-2 and MG-3. All basically the same gun.
 
That whole SKS is chromed!
Wonder how much it would cost to chome a '42....
.. and a Reising....
aaa and an SVT....
... and maybe even that Beretta 38A.

BTW, the Beretta 38A was a very darned decent SMG, even though a little on the heavy side. The British used a lot of them in the North African campaign. They are really one of the best 'unknown' weapons built. Very reliable and quite accurate. The triggers weren't 'set' triggers, either: one for SA fire, one for FA. Standard mag was 40 rounds and the Italian Model 38 cartridge was a brass-cased 9mm Parabellum load, marked on the base of every round so that it didn't get stuffed into an old 1910 Glisenti and do some damage in the wrong direction.
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That whole SKS is chromed!
Wonder how much it would cost to chome a '42....
.. and a Reising....
aaa and an SVT....
... and maybe even that Beretta 38A.

BTW, the Beretta 38A was a very darned decent SMG, even though a little on the heavy side. The British used a lot of them in the North African campaign. They are really one of the best 'unknown' weapons built. Very reliable and quite accurate. The triggers weren't 'set' triggers, either: one for SA fire, one for FA. Standard mag was 40 rounds and the Italian Model 38 cartridge was a brass-cased 9mm Parabellum load, marked on the base of every round so that it didn't get stuffed into an old 1910 Glisenti and do some damage in the wrong direction.
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+1 on the Beretta. The 38A and its successor, the 38/42, were the most underrated SMGs of WWII. Unlike most of their contemporaries, the Berettas had a double feed position magazine, which is intrinsically more reliable than a double stack single feed position one. I believe that the magazines for the Uzi were based on the Beretta design.
 
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