Whats the best model year of M14??

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I am a noob, when it comes to M14's. Is there a preference of what brand of Chinese Built M14, Poly Tech or Norinco. Also What is the Best Year to buy, and what years would you guys say, that its best to stay away from?

I have read that the older Chinese built M14's were not too good, but the newer ones from 2007 and newer are pretty good, is that right?

Also, is the Year it is built stamped on the reciever?
 
The very earliest ones have lots of USGI parts, so they aren't all bad. There are some very attractive polished blued sporter models that came here in the beginning. After that ... there concensus is that the quality control gets progressively better. The year has only been marked in the last three or four batches. XGN's resident M14 teacher posted that the last batches in the synthetic stocks at Epps were very good. But, there are problems with all the batches, some problems are solved more easily.
 
Find a 2007 with the barrel indexed correctly and working sights, and you have a pretty nice rifle. I can't say its the best, but they are good.
 
I was at Epps last week, to buy a Tikka. I thought about getting a M14 also when I was there, but I would be divorced right now if I did. However, in a couple of months I will be in the market for a M14, so I was just starting to search now, to find the best one, at the best price. So it sounds like the ones from Epps are good, but they are $525, and I think I can get a better deal elsewhere.

Is there a difference between Norinco and Poly Tech, or are they both equally as good??
 
I like both Norc and Poly. I bought both, but ended up keeping the Norc. Each year the high school shop classes seem to step up their quality control. I'm encouraging people to buy the version with the black plastic stock because I'm a synthetic stock kinda guy.... frankly someone is gonna get cancer one day (or your #### may fall off) from that toxic, mystery oil Chu wood stock.

:cheers:

Barney
 
I like both Norc and Poly. I bought both, but ended up keeping the Norc. Each year the high school shop classes seem to step up their quality control. I'm encouraging people to buy the version with the black plastic stock because I'm a synthetic stock kinda guy.... frankly someone is gonna get cancer one day (or your #### may fall off) from that toxic, mystery oil Chu wood stock.

:cheers:

Barney

We should buy more Norcs and help those kids.
 
All of my Norinco and Poly Tech rifles are 'older'... they are great and excellent to build on.

Speaking of these older rifles, iwas reading the warbird website and they go on and on about "converting" these rifles for USGI bolts - what's that all about? Do the USA imported older Norinco's have a dimensional issue not in the post-2003 guns?
 
Almost all of the [ old and new ] Chinese Norc & Poly M14s that I have personally inspected had perfectly dimensioned receivers, as good as the GI genuine M14 receivers I've checked.

HOWEVER,
??some how ??? a large percentage of these old/early Chinese 14s were fitted with barrels that were out of spec with regards to the barrel threading at the shoulder, AND POSSIBLY WITH THE CHAMBER DIMENSIONS TOO LONG AS WELL.

Simply put,
these barrels WERE MACHINED WITH THE SHOULDER APPROXIMATELY .010" TOO FAR FORWARD, AND ?POSSIBLY? WITH AN EXTRA .010 OF HEAD SPACE.

What happens when these barrels are threaded into a correctly dimensioned receiver, is that the rear face of the barrel THEN PROTRUDES ABOUT .010" TOO FAR INTO THE RECEIVER.

One solution , NOT THE BEST SOLUTION , but the one the Chinese went for, was to grind approximately .010" off of the back lugs of the Chinese bolts. [ and I use the word approximately here because it looks like most of these were done by hand, with no real dimensional control except the ol' MARK 1 EYEBALL ].

SO, if you have a OUT OF SPEC Chinese barrel like this, fitting an IN SPEC, PROPERLY DIMENSIONED GI BOLT into your ON SPEC CHINESE RECEIVER, can be a VERY involved process.

Usually it will be much better, to simply thread in a GI barrel instead, and THEN try the GI bolt for fit.

A decent GI barrel and GI bolt on MOST Chinese receivers will USUALLY bring you very close to .308 GO, or perhaps if using a NEW set, a couple of thou short. I've done dozens of these, and IMHO, if you have to lap for more than 15 minutes, you should be using different bolt/barrel combinations.

Which is why, when I did my last batch of GI bolt & barrel conversions, I had SEVERAL different bolts and barrels on hand to juggle with, till almost all of that entire batch ended up with near perfect headspace, full bolt lug engagement, and all done with a minimum of lapping

YPMMV,
BUT
I've BTDT a lot of times,
got I've got the Tshirt,
LAZ 1
[;{)


Hope this helps????
 
So really, if I buy any Norinco or Poly Tech M14 that was made in 2003 or newer will be a decent rifle and there is not really a best year? I should really just look for the best deal on one.

Does that sound about right?
 
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