Could somebody with a Colt woodsman help me out?

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Anyone have a third? series woodsman sport that they would be willing to disassemble to help me out. I have one that was butchered by a "gunsmith" and will not recock once fired. Another thread led me to believe it is the trigger bar that is the culprit, but after examination I cannot see how that would be possible.

I need you to:
1. Remove the mainspring housing and then the slide.
2. Reassemble without the slide.
3. #### the hammer
4. Pull the trigger and ride the hammer forward with your thumb while keeping the trigger depressed.
5. With the trigger still depressed recock the hammer and ride it forward again
In theory the hammer should be held back by some mechanism at this point and by releasing the trigger the hammer will be transferred back onto the sear, ready to fire again
I need to know what is holding the hammer back while the trigger is depressed.

Thanks in advance
 
Never mind bjs7293 beat me to it, I was about to post the same vids. I bought a used second series Colt Woodman that needed a thorough cleaning and learned the operations of assembly and disassembly from YouTube.It was a little frustrating the first time, but just take your time and you will be able to do it.It is much easier to take it apart and can be a little tricky to put it back to together though.The whole process took me about an hour and a half the first time including oiling cleaning and only about 45 minutes the second time.These are good videos step by step for both disassemly and reassembly.
 
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Sorry, Just misread the post. The way it was decribed it sounded like an exterior hammer. No offence intended regarding your knowledge of guns or expected a lesson in basic gun anatomy,only trying to help since I have a Colt Woodsman that I have worked on regularly and never had any problems after reassembly.It is only a process of elimination with the problem you are having.What could be causing the issue is that the sear spring may have not have been positioned under the hammer strut which will in this case not allow the hammer to lock back into place.Also is the sear pin in place as well? Another consideration is to make sure that the other end of the sear is in its slot properly.The symptoms you have described seem to point to that area.Only a couple of suggestions to look into.Good luck
 
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BigUn said:
Sorry, Just misread the post. The way it was decribed it sounded like an exterior hammer. No offence intended regarding your knowledge of guns or expected a lesson in basic gun anatomy,only trying to help since I have a Colt Woodsman that I have worked on regularly and never had any problems after reassembly.It is only a process of elimination with the problem you are having.What could be causing the issue is that the sear spring may have not have been positioned under the hammer strut which will in this case not allow the hammer to lock back into place.Also is the sear pin in place as well? Another consideration is to make sure that the other end of the sear is in its slot properly.The symptoms you have described seem to point to that area.Only a couple of suggestions to look into.Good luck
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No worries. the pistol is assembled properly, it was just butchered previously. I'm unsure of what you mean by "end of the sear is in its slot properly". The sear on mine is held by a pin, engages the hammer, contacts the trigger bar, and receives pressure from the flat spring. The is no "slot" to speak of. Where is it located?
 
Farlsincharge said:
No worries. the pistol is assembled properly, it was just butchered previously. I'm unsure of what you mean by "end of the sear is in its slot properly". The sear on mine is held by a pin, engages the hammer, contacts the trigger bar, and receives pressure from the flat spring. The is no "slot" to speak of. Where is it located?
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Glad you were able to get things sorted out.I think that what you are calling the flat spring,I am calling it the sear spring,that may be where the confusion is.I have heard it called the diconnect spring as well.
The best way that I can describe what I mean is that once the mainspring housing is removed if you look inside where the flat/sear spring is seated , the lower part of the spring has a very small 90 degree bend or close that goes into a fine slot (in the area of the housing lock pin) that keeps the flat spring in place under tension or helps to add even more.I wish that I had a manual to show you exactly what I am getting at.A pictoral is much easier to understand.
 
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Yes the sear spring is in its slot. I thought you meant the sear had a slot and was confused.

Still have no idea as to what holds the hammer back after a shot cycle while the trigger is still depressed though.
 
Still have no idea as to what holds the hammer back after a shot cycle while the trigger is still depressed though.[/QUOTE]

The sear holds the hammer ( striker ) in this case back ,
if it is not check the trigger bar.
I may have a manual for this pistol, but it is too late tonight to look for it.
Steves pages ??? on line will have a manual you can down load.
 
The trigger bar is disconnected from the sear when the slide moves back over it. It won't disconnect without the slide.

When you release the trigger, the trigger bar moves up to reengage the sear.

disassemble the gun and reassemble with the hammer removed. Pull the trigger and attempt to push down on the sear end of the trigger bar. If it moves, inspect the engagement surface on the slide. If it doesn't move, find out why not.
 
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The trigger bar is disconnected from the sear when the slide moves back over it. It won't disconnect without the slide.

When you release the trigger, the trigger bar moves up to reengage the sear.

disassemble the gun and reassemble with the hammer removed. Pull the trigger and attempt to push down on the sear end of the trigger bar. If it moves, inspect the engagement surface on the slide. If it doesn't move, find out why not.
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Thank you ever so much. The engagement surface is indeed the problem
 
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