Clobbersauras
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ht tp://www.hornady.com/store/7.62X39-123-gr-V-MAX/
Good on 'em for producing this...
Good on 'em for producing this...
This is neat...7.62x39
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Price: $42.48/box... nope.
Why when you can reload cheaper than that, even with the V-Max bullets.. And these are steel case to boot. At least if they went brass you could reload them. At that price for what they're offering you're much better off pulling surp bullets and sitting your bullet of choice on top. I make most of my hunting rounds off pulled milsurp. Not going to waste brass in the bush.
At least they're in boxes of 50 though and not 20's... Still far short of a deal when you take into account what they're offering. we live in the land of cheap Czech Milsurp ammo.. Down south, they'd give a nut to pay what we do, and Hornady is pricing against that, not ours.
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I'm seeing it as cheap as $25/50 down south.. At that price it's getting a little better, at least it's matching home loads.
Why when you can reload cheaper than that, even with the V-Max bullets.. And these are steel case to boot. At least if they went brass you could reload them. At that price for what they're offering you're much better off pulling surp bullets and sitting your bullet of choice on top. I make most of my hunting rounds off pulled milsurp. Not going to waste brass in the bush.
At least they're in boxes of 50 though and not 20's... Still far short of a deal when you take into account what they're offering. we live in the land of cheap Czech Milsurp ammo.. Down south, they'd give a nut to pay what we do, and Hornady is pricing against that, not ours.
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I'm seeing it as cheap as $25/50 down south.. At that price it's getting a little better, at least it's matching home loads.
Maybe not when compared to reloads or milsurp but for someone that doesn't reload and wants to hunt with off the shelf loads its comparable even with steel casings. Hornady .308 150gr. SST cost $32 for 20 rounds at Cabelas. Hornady Leveraction .30-30 is $23 for 20 rounds. Even Remington Core Lokt is $18 and up for 20 rounds.
For someone that shoots milsurp with a SKS and wants to try hunting with it without investing in reloading equipment or doesn't have the time for reloading - this seems like a good compromise.
... for the price of the other commercial x39 loads you could sell your brass to freaks like me and make a lot of that price up.
If it comes to Canada for some of the prices that it's floating around for down south (fat chance), I'd buy some as well.. but you know we're going to get bent over right?
What are the prices on these other commercial x39 you're talking about and where are they? I just did a quick check of Cabela's and Wholesale Sports and neither lists any cheap brass hunting ammo in 7.62x39mm. Sure there is Prvi Partizan but if its not for sale locally then add shipping costs to that price. Both Cabela's and Wholesale sell Hornady ammo.
A brother of a friend of mine hunts Norhtern Ontario with his 858. From what I hear even though he reloads the issue is bullets not brass. I shoot milsurp on the range but its illegal to hunt with it. This offering from Hornady is just the ticket to go hunting with a 858 or a SKS without investing in relaoding equipment.
ramhunter
CGN Regular
V max
you might want take some time and do a search on that bullet.
what i have read from US hunters doesn't really sound like the
V [varmint] MAX is a very good deer bullet. you would be way better off with
prvi i think.
ramhunter
you might want take some time and do a search on that bullet.
what i have read from US hunters doesn't really sound like the
V [varmint] MAX is a very good deer bullet. you would be way better off with
prvi i think.
ramhunter
Well its a mute point: I don't hunt with my 858 as its the restricted 858-4V folder. But I do hunt with 110gn .243 Win and 130gn .270 WSM both with Nosler Partitions. But I think a 123 gn 7.62x39mm at close range (50 to 100 yds) in a SKS would do the trick although I can't say for sure as I've never used a V Max bullet.
It may be a varmint bullet in smaller calibres with a larger case size but at 300 yds the Hornady x39mm V Max drops 15 inches so I doubt its going to be used for long range varmint shooting. Maybe someone will give it a try on deer at close range and post their results.
That would be a better choice on deer. I haven't seen them advertised online at Cabela's or Wholesale. Maybe the Federals are on the shelf though.
You may have to actually look around.. Cabelas and Wholesale aren't even on the list of places I'd be looking for ammo.
There's lots of commercial x39 out there. I have cases of;
- Sellier & Bellot
- Prvi Partisan
- Remington UMC FMJ
- Remington Express Rifle SP
- Winchester Super X
- Federal Power Shok
- Federal American Eagle
- Cor-Bon DPX Hunter
..All from Canada. You may have to walk in to stores, go to auctions, gun shows, talk to people.. but it's out there. There were a few x39 bolt guns that were quite popular in the 70's, especially in Ontario, and ammunition comes up if you know who to ask. The kicker is that on average I have paid the same or less for my non-corrosive brass cased ammo than surplus because of the places that I got it. when you find some out of the way shop that's been sitting on a few cases for a couple decades they think you're doing them a favor when you tell them that you'll "take it all".
But if you rely on the box-stores for your supplies, you'll never get a deal, or likely even find what you're looking for. It's the little gems that'll set you up.
There are lots of .310 bullets out there to be had. I've never had a problem getting them. My personal favorite is the Hornady 123gr Spire Point. Coyotes, Deer.. all love them. x39 isn't a very stellar performing round in terms of ballistics and is therefore pretty forgiving in reloading. It's a great short range deer-banger.
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And now you can add Hornady V Max to your list.
I've bought hard to find ammo such as 9mm Browning Long at gunshows. If I could, I'd import it from the USA as it available and a lot less expensive then buying at gunshows.
I know where to get ammo. I have three 1080 rounds crates of x39 and a 880 rounds crate of x54R shipped from Virden here in MB and Frontier in Sask. I also have S&B and Privi in 8mm and 7.62x54R for hunting if I want to use a milsurp. Both bought at those big box stores as I only wanted a box of each not crates.
Thanks. I'll pass this info along to my friend for his brother. He's from Sundown. And when I have time to reload, if I buy a SKS, I'll try it myself.
But for now I'm happy to patronize Cabela's, Wholesale Sports, Canuk Tire and Walmart because they do sell ammo (though the Walmart I shop at has let their license to sell ammo expire. Maybe they think its not worth the hassle if not many do buy ammo there). People are surprised when I tell them I've bought ammo at Canuk Tire.
But I can remember when you could buy firearms at Canuk Tire, K-Mart, Gambles, Clarks and others here in Winnipeg and now you can't. And I don't think we are better off with this change in store policy.
I would stay away from the V-Max for hunting deer sized game. These are intented for coyotes and smaller animals as are all of the V-max line bullets. If you were looking for a defensive load then the V-max would be my first choice.
Go with a conventional soft point as mentioned above for hunting deer.
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Go with a conventional soft point as mentioned above for hunting deer.
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These rounds have good specs and looks like they hold their energy well, but 40 + bucks per box? Seems like a waste.
I use the PRVI Soft points, they work great for deer but start to loose their energy past 125 yards, but can shoot through a dime at 100 yards. I've tried the Hornady rounds for my 30-30 and they shoot well but the problem is that not only they are expensive, they are loaded hotter and shoot higher. Do you sight your gun in for horribly expensive rounds? or the fun rounds that you can get anywhere for half the price if not a third the price?
I use the PRVI Soft points, they work great for deer but start to loose their energy past 125 yards, but can shoot through a dime at 100 yards. I've tried the Hornady rounds for my 30-30 and they shoot well but the problem is that not only they are expensive, they are loaded hotter and shoot higher. Do you sight your gun in for horribly expensive rounds? or the fun rounds that you can get anywhere for half the price if not a third the price?
umm, how is your 858 restricted? folder is fine. Your 858 is only restricted if it has the original barrel length on, then it would be a 58 not an 858.
I have the same gun check your reg cert
New production by CZ - 858 not Vz 58. Vz 58 production ceased in 1984. Barrel length is 15.5 inches (390mm).
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Yeah your generic soft points will work fine for mid sized deer. Honestly who wants to shoot one with 7.62x39mm past 150 yards anyway?.
