The M1 Carbine was made using a "mixmaster" approach, all new carbines came with parts from various manufacturers, therefore any correct style front sight "ears" by any manufacturer are correct for that carbine (pretty easy, but there was a war on you know). The exceptions to the above would be prototypes and post war Howa's.
M1 Carbine - Winchester
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Good to know...... it's still original Win. barrel, so I'll try find an unmarked one.
Thanks Purple!
Oh yeah, I should be getting pics tonight, so you fella's can have a look.
OK, that is a dandy. Fine condition. At a glance looks to have all the correct early features - rear sight, slim, highwall stock at operating slide, push button safety. Cartouches are excellent.
Most (over 90%) of US GI firearms went through one or more rebuilds. I do not think that one ever did. Replace the front sight with an original in condition matching the rest of the carbine, and you will have an outright superior specimen.
You were very fortunate to come across this one! Congratulations!
Most (over 90%) of US GI firearms went through one or more rebuilds. I do not think that one ever did. Replace the front sight with an original in condition matching the rest of the carbine, and you will have an outright superior specimen.
You were very fortunate to come across this one! Congratulations!
Please reduce the size of your pictures.
The quality of the wood used on W.W. II era rifles never ceases to amaze me. Nice. Clean it, but nothing else.
You'll need a whole new front sight to get the protectors back. Not a big deal though. No special tools are required.
The quality of the wood used on W.W. II era rifles never ceases to amaze me. Nice. Clean it, but nothing else.
You'll need a whole new front sight to get the protectors back. Not a big deal though. No special tools are required.
Thanks, now you guys know why I didn't like the "change the barrel" idea... that woulda been an injustice!
Too bad it doesn't have a nice patina'd sling to go with it!
"...nice patina'd sling..." Carbine slings are cotton canvas, no patina on cloth. You need an oiler too. Fits in the stock cut out and keeps the sling in place. Mind you, a piece of dowel works too. 3/8" diameter, I think it is.
Picture of both. http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=543830&catid=11881
No bayonets for your carbine though. Late/post war addition.
Picture of both. http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=543830&catid=11881
No bayonets for your carbine though. Late/post war addition.
Thant is so sweet! You have a very desireable maker of the carbine as well! Here is the one I got registered, coming off the Alaska Hiway Project, sat unregistered for almost 70 years. Had the pouch and the correct c-tip sling. Good luck and I wish you and the carbine the very best!!
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Unreal!! That IS in amazing shape.
I'm amazed at what you manage to dig up, Burnt45... first we see an original LB Lightweight Trials rifle and now an unmolested WW2 Winchester carbine.
I agree with the others here... I'd be very surprised if they gave you a hard time registering her. The CFC is just happy get her into the 'system'. A collectors piece for sure.
Soooo... what's next... an unfired Martini-Henry from Queen Victoria's personal body guard, signed in electro-pencil be Her Majesty herself?
Just wondering....
I'm amazed at what you manage to dig up, Burnt45... first we see an original LB Lightweight Trials rifle and now an unmolested WW2 Winchester carbine.
I agree with the others here... I'd be very surprised if they gave you a hard time registering her. The CFC is just happy get her into the 'system'. A collectors piece for sure.
Soooo... what's next... an unfired Martini-Henry from Queen Victoria's personal body guard, signed in electro-pencil be Her Majesty herself?
Just wondering....
Thant is so sweet! You have a very desireable maker of the carbine as well! Here is the one I got registered, coming off the Alaska Hiway Project, sat unregistered for almost 70 years. Had the pouch and the correct c-tip sling. Good luck and I wish you and the carbine the very best!!
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VERY nice Joe.... what maker is yours?... Once I find the missing acoutrements, that's exactly the look I want.
Thanks CHOFO..... I guess I'm just lucky.
Actually I might have a line on Queen E's garter Derringer w/matching garter!
That one is worth every bit of grief it may or may not take to get registered!!! Thank you for showing!
Joe is 120% correct here. Looks like a totally unmolested Winnie. Do whatever you have to, to keep that one. If you dont want the hassle, I am sure Joe or I would gladly take one for the team.
According to the book 'U.S. M1 Carbines Wartime Production, by Craig Riesch, there are three type of front sights for the M1 Carbine.
Type I: The Type I Front Sight was milled from a solid block of steel. There were minor differences in the machine cuts behind the sight blades but the sights were manufacturer-coded and are easy to identify.
Type II: The Type II Front Sight component parts were stamped from three pieces of sheet steel, formed and brazed or spot-welded together into a completed sight and adopted in May, 1943. They were manufacturer code marked.
Type III: The Type III Front Sight was a late, probably post World War II, cast sight, easily identified by the casting mark along the middle of the sight and used as a replacement only. The Type III sights marked "RIA" or "SA" were post-War Rock Island Arsenal or Springfield Armory replacements.
COMMENTS: All front sights were originally parkerized. Most front sights were manufacturer-coded except Winchester, Saginaw SG and some post -World War II cast front sights. the height of the sight blade may vary from carbine to carbine. Irwin-Pedersen and Saginaw Grand Rapids (IP or S'G') stamped a number between "2" and "7" on the left side to indicate blade height.
Based on the table in the book, a Winchester carbine of the 1 million serial number range would have been a Type I, which would have either been unmarked or marked with a 'L', which would be quite rare.
At any rate if you are planning on being a new carbine owner, this is a very worthwhile book to own.
