The "no steel shot thru full choke" thing is a load of $hit. I've been blasting 3 1/2" steel No 2 thru my 870 full choke no problems for the past 11 years.
Goose and duck with a single 12gauge
- Thread starter Don'tkillbill
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The "no steel shot thru full choke" thing is a load of $hit. I've been blasting 3 1/2" steel No 2 thru my 870 full choke no problems for the past 11 years.
Remington says their modern barrels (roughly 1950 and newer) will handle steel in a full choke but not through a xfull or turkey choke.
Not all of the pre-steel shotguns will take it.
Remingtons new full choke is designed for steel shot. It even says so right on the tube. The rule applies to older fixed choke, softer steel guns.
So here's one for you guys. I have two 12ga pumps, both in fixed full choke. One is a Savage 30E that I've determined as early '60s manufacture or prior, due to lack of a factory serial number. The other is a Winchester 2200 that Winchester can't tell me anything about. Both are 30" barrels and, as mentioned, fixed full choke.
From what I understand, as long as I keep to the smaller sizes of shot [say, no.2 and smaller] I should be allright and not bulge my barrels.
It's also worth while to say that they're both 2 3/4 chambers, so it's not like I'm going to be using super hot 3.5" magnum loads.
Thank y'all for your time.
From what I understand, as long as I keep to the smaller sizes of shot [say, no.2 and smaller] I should be allright and not bulge my barrels.
It's also worth while to say that they're both 2 3/4 chambers, so it's not like I'm going to be using super hot 3.5" magnum loads.
Thank y'all for your time.
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- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
Why not go get yourself a Mossberg Maverick 88 Field???????????
It is essentially a Mossberg 500 with a 28 inch barrel, and comes with a removeable modified choke. You can get any choke you want but modified is prolly what you want anyways.
$250 + tax and is the best deal out there in a new firearm if you ask me!!!!!!!!!!!
I have put over 1000 rounds through mine, and done very well on the trapfield with this gun, and would recomend it to anyone!
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And steel is not a problem at all!
It is essentially a Mossberg 500 with a 28 inch barrel, and comes with a removeable modified choke. You can get any choke you want but modified is prolly what you want anyways.
$250 + tax and is the best deal out there in a new firearm if you ask me!!!!!!!!!!!
I have put over 1000 rounds through mine, and done very well on the trapfield with this gun, and would recomend it to anyone!
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And steel is not a problem at all!
Cause not everyone has $250 they can throw away on a new shotty....espically when they already own a few shotties that have nothing wrong with them.
The problem with the older fixed full barrels is they will blow out the pattern with steel. You won't hit worth anything. If you don't believe me get out the patterning board and try it. For "lead-like" performance you are going to need a modern firearm designed for steel shot.
My 2 cents
-Dave
My 2 cents
-Dave
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
Well from the sounds of the OP it would seem he is thinking about going out and buying a shotgun anyways!
It was someone else who said they had 2 other shotguns. And even to him I would say sell the 2 you have and get a gun made to do what you want it to.
You can turn a robertson screw with a philips screw driver half the time but it is a pain in the ass to do! Get the right tool for the job!
A Cooey in good shape will still cost $80-$100 and it seems that he would be very limited trying to make that work for him! I have owned an old Cooey and well it was functional it was definitely not what I would want in hand jumping out of a blind. Even if he is brand new to shooting I am sure he would want to move on to a pump eventually so I offered an alternative! Don't get your panties in a twist!
And a good alternative it is. $100 for an old Cooey, another $100 to ream out the choke and you still have an old Cooey. The 88 is a great value for a shotgun with a vent rib and interchangable chokes.
That caveat applies to old fixed choke guns, not modern ones.
Look for a choke-tube barrel for the 2200. They are around and cheaper than buying a whole gun.
Somewhat off the subject, but I remember $20 Cooey singleshots in stores that sold .22 shells for a buck a box if you were lucky. What happened? It seems like you can start talking price on a new singleshot for a couple hundred, but the rimfire ammo didn't go to $100 a brick.
You must be O-L-D !! Lowest price i can remember for a cooey singlr shot was $40. Imperial .22LR was $1.10/box and shorts were $0.75. I was 16 then, and I bought a new winchester M1200 with winchoke for $80, no PAL/FAC required, you just had to prove you were 16 yo.
You got up at 4:30, drove 45 minutes to the marsh, lugged your decoys and gear in, spent the time setting it all up, it's cold and rainy, you got water over your waders, and you don't see any ducks all morning except for a flock of four big mallards. Do you really only want a single shot gun?
I'm not that old, but yes it was way pre FAC. I remember dad getting a new Winchester '94 for $99.99 with 2 boxes of Imperial and case out of the Sears catalog too. A hundred bucks was a lot of money then.
If you measure success in dead ducks you MIGHT be happier with a repeater, although IME the correlation between more shots and more game is not linear. Shoot more, miss more. But shooting is part of the fun and I know exactly what you mean. A single shot wouldn't be my choice right now. But it is what I started on and i shot a lot of ducks with one.
If a guy wants to try waterfowling, then a single shot is not a bad way to start. Single shots are inexpensive and just as much fun to hunt with as a repeater. If he finds that waterfowling is his thing he can get a repeater later. It's not what most of us would do, but there's nothing wrong with it.
BTW, only 4 ducks showed up all morning?? maybe you need to look for better hunting grounds.
BTW, only 4 ducks showed up all morning?? maybe you need to look for better hunting grounds.
Just an example bud.
M12shooter
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Nice getting that double...more so when it's cold, marsh is freezing over and they all might be gone by morning.
And a dam fine one, too.
A single shot is a great "learner" gun for waterfowl. My oldest boy will be starting his first season with a single 20 guage. The difference is he'll be with me all the time and I'll be carrying the SBE so that when he wings something, I'll be able to kill it quickly. I like singles for rookies in the blind since they will never be accidentally pointing a loaded gun at you after they make a kill shot and are excited.
