Just got my Hex receiver 91/30 from TradeEx...

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It's a 1928 Tula. Definitely Very Good, as advertised. It's the first 91/30 I've handled, and wow, it makes my M44 and No.4 Mk1* feel vaguely toylike.

What a rifle! Can't wait to shoot it!

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The vaguely toylike feel of the Number 4 is down to an utterly superb design: the absolute simplest mechanism which could do the jobs demanded of it. I think that James Paris Lee was the single finest rifle designer of the Nineteenth Century; he built but a single prototype and it went into production and sold. That was 1879. The last major mod on his design was in 1887 and his rifle is still in production 123 years later. Pretty hard to beat.

The Moisin-Nagant was a different story, designed later, under different circumstances. It assembled mechanisms which already were proven and put them together into a package which was near idiot-proof, near soldier-proof and rugged in the extreme. Better yet, it was made in Russia, so it was something that Russia could make without having to buy a whole new factory, using up what slender resources they actually had. Captain Moisin was, in his own way, another genius who is underappreciated.

Between the two men, forty million rifles were made to their designs. That's saying a lot.

You have a beautiful specimen of Captain Moisin's design. If it shoots half as good as it looks, you have a winner for sure; I only wish that some of mine looked half as good!

BTW, if you are handloading for your Moisin-Nagants, be sure that you feed them the same bullets as you use in your Number 4. The loadingmanuals say to use a .308" bullet, but a Moisin-Nagant will nearly always shoot its best with a .311" or a .312". Nice thing is that they dote on those boat-tails which the Enfield rifling of the Lee rifle doesn't like all that much.

You have a Very Fine Toy, friend.

Have fun!
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While I like my Mosins', the full rifle doesn't feel right with that thin barrel guard. The Mosin-Nagant that makes me most comfortable is my M39 Finnish Mosin with the nice and large hand guard. The feel of the thicker hand guard is a world of difference.
 
Imagine trying to manuever that giant bayonet through a trench or house... it's like carrying a ladder! It reminds you that the Mosin was designed when the mass infantry charge across open ground was still a valid combat tactic.:eek::50cal:
 
It was the same thinking with the No1 and it's 17" sword bayonet. The infantry could use them to form up and repel a cavalry charge if necessary.
 
While I like my Mosins', the full rifle doesn't feel right with that thin barrel guard. The Mosin-Nagant that makes me most comfortable is my M39 Finnish Mosin with the nice and large hand guard. The feel of the thicker hand guard is a world of difference.

Actually, I kind of like the thin hand guard. In fact, I think that overall I like the Mosin's furniture better than the LE's; I find the LE's comb too low for comfort...
 
I'm interested in your experience dealing with TradeEx. Did you phone/e-mail? How was the service? How long did it take you to get your Mosin?

I ask because I want one of their 91/30's... and a No.4 Mk1.
 
I'm interested in your experience dealing with TradeEx. Did you phone/e-mail? How was the service? How long did it take you to get your Mosin?

I ask because I want one of their 91/30's... and a No.4 Mk1.

This was my second TradeEx Mosin. I phoned. Service was excellent and courteous, and the gun arrived within a week. As noted I am very pleased with it. I'll be buying from them again.
 
Imagine trying to manuever that giant bayonet through a trench or house... it's like carrying a ladder! It reminds you that the Mosin was designed when the mass infantry charge across open ground was still a valid combat tactic.:eek::50cal:

Tell me about it. I have a couple of bayonet dents in my gun room ceiling now. But with 7.62 Russian, can't you just clear the house by shooting it up from the outside?
 
Paul Mauser spent from 1869 through to 1898 refining his design: small wonder he got it right at last. Still, it is typically German in many ways: perfect, but difficult to make.

Lee and Garand (both Canadians, eh) both got it right the first time, pretty much.

As to John Browning, well, he had a shaper in his shop, I know that much. How many of his designs have you worked on? Nightmares, half of them: too many parts.

Lee and Moisin got it right: nothing unnecessary, pure functional design, relatively simple to build and rock-solid. There were 30 million Moisins built and you never see them in a shop for work. Same with Lees: most common job is scoping one. I once had to refurb more than 150 ld rifles, all Browning designs.... and a full quarter needed work, and none had been fired in 40 years. Lee and Moisin got it right.

And Trade Ex are good people to deal with. See proof above.
 
Tell me about it. I have a couple of bayonet dents in my gun room ceiling now. But with 7.62 Russian, can't you just clear the house by shooting it up from the outside?

Ya, one of my closets has it's share of bayo wounds. The Mosin and the previously mentioned no1 and it's sword being the main culprits at my place. I was under the impression that 7.62x54r and .303 british are similar, balistically. I've never fired either beyond 300m myself. What a difference a short barrel makes though , eh? BOOOM!
 
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