- Location
- London, Ontario
Title says it all...is there a reason for this? Can you get an after market break?
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Why no muzzle break on Smith and Wessons M&P 15?
- Thread starter Until the Angels Fall
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From what I heard, you have to get a gunsmith to machine the threading on for you flash supressor. Can anyone confirm on deny this? Things may have changed since I last checked, as I heard rumors that S&W was going to put threading on all new models a while ago.
- Location
- Niagara Region, Ontario. For now
Not really a reason per say. Might have something to do with making it easier to export from the US due to restrictions on braks and collabsible stocks. You will notice most M&P 15 rifles if not all in Canada come with 2 stocks as well. It gets exported from the US with the fixed stock and then they throw in the collapsible stock after it gets here. This is for the same reason.
To add an aftermarket flash hider or brake you would need to have the barrel threaded, but it is not expensive or hard to do.
Its due to export regulations.
If you look at the S&W website, you'll see that all the models except the M&P 15I come with M4 stocks, and 16"barrels with flash hiders. The I model is the only one available here in Canada because the US thinks we're all a bunch of terrorists.
If you look at the S&W website, you'll see that all the models except the M&P 15I come with M4 stocks, and 16"barrels with flash hiders. The I model is the only one available here in Canada because the US thinks we're all a bunch of terrorists.
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- Location
- burnaby BC كافر
can not export with a threaded barrel or flash hider.
breaks must be pinned on for the export rules.
breaks must be pinned on for the export rules.
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- Witness Protection Program
We were a bunch of terrorists, didn't we burn down the White House in 1814 (someone with more historical knowledge correct me if I'm wrong)?
EVERY export permit is different and has included in it PROVISOs (restrictions) which specifically list what restrictions are being placed on the items contained in that export permit.
US State Department may include whatever restrictions they deem appropriate and those restrictions may be consistent (or not) from permit to permit, from exporter to exporter, from product to product, or any/all of the above.
State Department could approve an export permit to one exporter for a specific brand of rifles and include restrictions saying "no 5.56NATO chambers" while they may not include that restriction on a separate permit for other brands or even for the same brand.
There is often no rhyme or reason to these restrictions and just as often there is no consistancy... I've seen where permits approved on the same day did not contain the same restrictions.
The exporter/importer that's been bringing in the S&W M&P rifles and distributing them to dealers has (I would assume) a permit that restricts those rifles from being exported with threaded barrels and/or flash hiders, and with adjustable or collapsing or folding stocks. S&W made the "i" model to comply with those very export restrictions.
Lately State Department has been including the "threaded barrel", "Flash Hider", "adjustable/collapsing/folding stock", "5.56NATO/7.62NATO Chamber" restrictions on more and more export permits. That's what we're seeing and from what we hear that's what most other exporters are seeing as well.
Mark
US State Department may include whatever restrictions they deem appropriate and those restrictions may be consistent (or not) from permit to permit, from exporter to exporter, from product to product, or any/all of the above.
State Department could approve an export permit to one exporter for a specific brand of rifles and include restrictions saying "no 5.56NATO chambers" while they may not include that restriction on a separate permit for other brands or even for the same brand.
There is often no rhyme or reason to these restrictions and just as often there is no consistancy... I've seen where permits approved on the same day did not contain the same restrictions.
The exporter/importer that's been bringing in the S&W M&P rifles and distributing them to dealers has (I would assume) a permit that restricts those rifles from being exported with threaded barrels and/or flash hiders, and with adjustable or collapsing or folding stocks. S&W made the "i" model to comply with those very export restrictions.
Lately State Department has been including the "threaded barrel", "Flash Hider", "adjustable/collapsing/folding stock", "5.56NATO/7.62NATO Chamber" restrictions on more and more export permits. That's what we're seeing and from what we hear that's what most other exporters are seeing as well.
Mark
The Noveske product we imported came with factory threaded barrels... the export permit we had then did not contain any restrictions to the contrary.
I can't speak for other importers or the restrictions that may have been contained in their export permits... only they would know that information.
Mark
Some of this mirrors increases in US State Department and BATFE harrassment of importers down here in the US:
Completely useless , pure harassment.
The threaded barrel , flash hider , and folding stock restrictions mirror the old 1994- 2004 " Assault Weapons Ban ".
Completely useless , pure harassment.
:0 Where do you get your gunsmithing work done? I wouldn't even think about doing that work for less than double that amount.
Threading an AR barrel requires totally disassembling the upper to remove the barrel and then reassembling the entire thing. Both of which are a pain to do properly.
