MK5 enfield/Jungle Carbine

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What is a mint jungle carbine worth these days? I have a chance to buy one but i'm not sure about his price hes asking.Thanks.
 
The bayo (a real one, not a modern repro) is worth almost as much as the rifle, so keep that in mind.

In my humble opinion: Decent Jungle: $300 to $400. Really nice ones can deserve more.

Slightly beside the point: I really like the Jungle Carbine!

Lou
 
I've posted this previously but I picked up a pair. The first is near mint and I paid $300.oo for it at a local gun show. Just for the look I picked up an original bayonet, I believe for $125.oo.

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The second, in particular some of the wood on it was in somewhat rough shape and the same guy I got the first onr from sold this second one to me for $50.00, as a parts gun. Couldn't pass it up for that price. Prior to tearing it down for parts, I thought I'd try cleaning it up first and actually, it looked not too bad. I "bubba'd" it a little in that I refinished the stock. It has an after market butt stock by Bishop I believe on it but I do have the original as well. In addition, I mounted a scope on it using an S&K scope mount so I wouldn't have to drill and tap and now I use it as shooter.

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$250 for a used and abused rifle, perhaps lower if bubba'd to $450 range for a decent rifle. They come up all the time on the EE & Gunshows. as for the bayonet, ebay has them on & off as well as the repro's for about $50 (if you want a bayonet to do ??) As for the price on a real Bayonet, $150 to $300 or a bit more if you pay it...

Pete
 
Pblatzz said:
$250 for a used and abused rifle, perhaps lower if bubba'd to $450 range for a decent rifle. They come up all the time on the EE & Gunshows. as for the bayonet, ebay has them on & off as well as the repro's for about $50 (if you want a bayonet to do ??) As for the price on a real Bayonet, $150 to $300 or a bit more if you pay it...

Pete
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As I posted earlier, I lucked into a real bayonet. You've mentioned repos and I was going to go that route, until I saw one as a local gun show and, I decided to go for a better item. With the shape of my first pictured Jungle Carbine being near mint, ;)somehow putting one of the repos on it just didn't seem to fit.
 
5THBATT said:
John is correct, 'Jungle carbine' is an accepted term but incorrect.
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That may well be, and I don't deny it, however, probably a majority of people better recognize them as a Jungle Carbine VS a No. 5 MK 1. Years ago in discussion with a couple of individuals that supposedly actually 'packed' them, apparently shortly after they were issued, they were 'affectionately' know as Jungle Carbines. I would guess this is a result of the conditions they were designed for and the theatre of operation they were used in.
 
Your guess would be partially correct. After WWII they were often issued in the tropical and other hot climates in the various small wars and insurgencies as the British Empire dismantled itself. But they weren't designed for jungles. The No.5 was designed in response to a requirement identified during WWII for a "Shortened, Lightened" version of the No.4. primarily for Airborne troops in NW Europe. By the time it became available, there was very little parachuting going on in that theatre, so it is best known from the post-war tropical campaigns.
 
I have no problems with the No5 being called a 'jungle carbine' i still refer to the No5 as a 'jungle carbine' myself.
the No5 was at one time going to be the standard issue rifle, it's designation is "Rifle No5 Mk1" it's not even a carbine!
IIRC the term was originally used as a sale's pitch in the 60's.
 
5THBATT said:
I have no problems with the No5 being called a 'jungle carbine' i still refer to the No5 as a 'jungle carbine' myself.
the No5 was at one time going to be the standard issue rifle, it's designation is "Rifle No5 Mk1" it's not even a carbine!
IIRC the term was originally used as a sale's pitch in the 60's.
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From the discussions I had with the two older gentlemen I made reference to previously, they both refered to the rifle as the Jungle Carbine. I 'assumed', as they had packed/used them and the jungle environment, which was prior to the 60's, that was the known designation then. To the best of my recollection, I don't recall they ever refered to the rifle as the No. 5:confused:.

As a side issue, wasn't there also a 'shortened' version basically 'classified ad a tanker model??
 
Here is what Wickipedia says about it.
Jungle Carbine was an informal term used for the Rifle No. 5 Mk I[2] which was a derivative of the British Lee Enfield No. 4 Mk I, designed especially for fighting in the Far East and Burma and other terrain where the length and weight of the standard rifle made it unsuitable[3]. Production began in March 1944, and finished in December 1947[4].

And again;
The term "Jungle Carbine" was colloquial and never officially applied by the British Armed Forces[5], but the Rifle No. 5 Mk I was informally referred to as the "Jungle Carbine" by British and Commonwealth troops during WWII and the Malayan
 
Book value rarely applies on Gun Nutz or anywhere else for that matter a clean unmolested shooter will sell for $300-$400 price will deteriorate as does condition as far as one with bayonet and all original it may command more money from someone with a strong interest in such a piece.
 
Story I heard was that the term "Jungle Carbine" originated with a large US importer/distributor.
Anyway, these little rifles do command pretty decent prices when in fine condition, and as mentionned, original bayonets are not common.
 
tiriaq said:
Story I heard was that the term "Jungle Carbine" originated with a large US importer/distributor.
Anyway, these little rifles do command pretty decent prices when in fine condition, and as mentionned, original bayonets are not common.
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In reality, I need an original bayonet like I need a hole in the head but when the opportunity presented itself, I couldn't resist.

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