Well here are a few pics I took of my new NP-22.
I thought I'd share a few first impressions.
Mind you I'm somewhat new to firearms and no pistol expert.
I have not had a chance to take it out to the range yet.
A few words before the pictures...
The price of the pistol certainly is right. For 359$ + tax + 20$ shipping, the price is just right compared to real SIG. Mind you it is not a real SIG. For a brand new SIG you are looking at 1100$ at the least. The finish is OK for a Norinco. I find that the NP-34 is a bit better in terms of fit and finish. The NP-22 finish is definitely rougher than a real SIG. This is not to say that the finish is horrible. Relatively speaking it looks quite durable.
The Np-22 has a standard picatinny rail, which I hope to mount a Streamlight TRL-1 or 3 on. I am leaning towards the 1. But others may chime in.
The trigger pull is horrible make no mistake. Compared to the NP-34, it is gritty with a long travel and very heavy. Even after cleaning, it still feels very heavy. Single action is more on par with the Np-34, but it still seems to be a bit behind.
Anyhow, here are the pictures.
I'll update this as I make corrections and add more info.
Please pardon the crappy pictures I am no photographer with my little snap and shoot camera.
Nice little box. Too bad they don't put a hole in the handle so you can lock it. It is padded on the inside. You do get some sort of metal tools for the gun but I chucked them since there was already a coating on rust on them. The gun with the included mag were safely drowned in Chicom-Cancer-Cosmo inside an airtight heavy duty plastic bag.
The manual is not written in Engrish and is rather informative.
There are particularly useful tech specs about various pistols of the same family.
Sorry no annihilating firepower here.
Here are the specs for the NP 22 and the NP-34.
Subjectively speaking from just feeling the triggers there is no way they have the same trigger pull. Even after cleaning the Np-22 felt just as heavy but a bit less grimy.
UPDATE: The mainspring assembly is interchangeable between the NP-22 and NP-34. They look almost exact. There is an issue though. When I swapped the NP34 mainspring assembly into the NP22 the trigger pull did not improve at all, it seemed to get worse. Alternatively, when I swapped the NP22 assembly into the NP34, the trigger pull on the NP34 seems to have improved somewhat. This suggests that the culprit of the horrid trigger pull is not the mainspring nor the mainspring assembly since the experiment suggests that the mainspring and assembly are to spec hence the interchangeability between the NP34. I think a more detailed strip of the frame is required and I suspect the culprit may be around the hammer/sear. The upshot is that a new mainspring may not be required to fix the trigger pull, on the downside the cause of the problem is yet unknown.
A .45 Norc-SIG would be nice. Sadly John says these are not in production.
I've handled the old Np-58 and they are quite nice.
Extra springs are included. One for the trigger bar and one goes into the locking block. They do nothing to improve quality of pull as I had foolishly thought.
Thanks to edyshock for pointing this out:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4920429&postcount=4
Important Update: I swapped in the spare lock block spring (bottom one in picture) while cleaning and noticed that the lock block and takedown lever were very difficult to replace. Once I did get them replaced I noticed that the pistol would no longer lock back on an empty magazine. I switched the old spring back in, very easily might I add, to find that full functionality was restored. Perhaps the new spring is out of spec or needs breaking in to remove some of its "springiness". The metal experts can chime in on this. In any case the lock block spring replacement is suspect.
The pistol itself.
The slide is steel and the frame is aluminum.
Thanks to Rivalen for the astute observation.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4924397&postcount=14
The finish is ok, but nothing to write home about.
It looks rough but durable.
I'm happy with it.
GASP- serial numbers. Again. Finish is ok, but the right side of the slide looks rather busy with all the numbers and markings. At least they skipped any poetry.
Notice the machine marks. I don't remember them on the SIG that I handled.
More machine marks on the inside of the slide. I don't think they matter too much here.
The magwell. There appear to be numbers here but they are not from the serial number. Mine read 4-1390. They are covered up by the magazine baseplate when the magazine is inserted.
Yet again, the finish is ok. Sadly I marred up the trigger pivot screw trying to replace the lock block.
The trick to aligning the trigger pivot pin to reinsert the block is to use a credit card or bank card to prevent marring to the finish of the pivot pin. Live and learn.
The inside of the slide.
Inside of the slide. Nothing spectacular.
The barrel appears well built and the locking pieces look very durable. Only time will tell. There was a bit of carbon fouling in the chamber area, probably from the test fire at the factory. The rifling is crisp and pronounced.
Here is the feedramp on the barrel. The locking block also has the lower part of the ramp cut into it, I do not know if this differs from a real SIG. Please chime in folks.
I can not speak about the reliability until I do some test shots and grouping shots.
The butt end of things.
It is a magazine. There are holes that indicate how many cartridges are in the magazine, 5-10 and the sadly unused 15. I purchased three magazines and all thee fall out readily when ejected. They seem well built and are all steel construction.
The NP-22 mags will fit into an Np-34 but not vice versa.
The innards. Notice the follower block that sits on top of the inside of the baseplate to limit capacity. I had no issue stripping the magazine without that ice-pick looking thing that came in the box. Other users have indicated this is what that pick thing is used for. I chucked it.
The baseplate has the last four digits of the serial number inscribed.
Calling 2444...
The side view. I very much like the construction of these and they feel very durable.
Mr. Bunikers. He is not dinner and quite deadly with his .22. Intruders beware.
I would appreciate any comments and suggested corrections.
Stay tuned for a range report.
Things to do:
-Lights and sights.
-Holster
-Mainspring replacement.
Cheers.
I thought I'd share a few first impressions.
Mind you I'm somewhat new to firearms and no pistol expert.
I have not had a chance to take it out to the range yet.
A few words before the pictures...
The price of the pistol certainly is right. For 359$ + tax + 20$ shipping, the price is just right compared to real SIG. Mind you it is not a real SIG. For a brand new SIG you are looking at 1100$ at the least. The finish is OK for a Norinco. I find that the NP-34 is a bit better in terms of fit and finish. The NP-22 finish is definitely rougher than a real SIG. This is not to say that the finish is horrible. Relatively speaking it looks quite durable.
The Np-22 has a standard picatinny rail, which I hope to mount a Streamlight TRL-1 or 3 on. I am leaning towards the 1. But others may chime in.
The trigger pull is horrible make no mistake. Compared to the NP-34, it is gritty with a long travel and very heavy. Even after cleaning, it still feels very heavy. Single action is more on par with the Np-34, but it still seems to be a bit behind.
Anyhow, here are the pictures.
I'll update this as I make corrections and add more info.
Please pardon the crappy pictures I am no photographer with my little snap and shoot camera.
Nice little box. Too bad they don't put a hole in the handle so you can lock it. It is padded on the inside. You do get some sort of metal tools for the gun but I chucked them since there was already a coating on rust on them. The gun with the included mag were safely drowned in Chicom-Cancer-Cosmo inside an airtight heavy duty plastic bag.
The manual is not written in Engrish and is rather informative.
There are particularly useful tech specs about various pistols of the same family.
Sorry no annihilating firepower here.
Here are the specs for the NP 22 and the NP-34.
Subjectively speaking from just feeling the triggers there is no way they have the same trigger pull. Even after cleaning the Np-22 felt just as heavy but a bit less grimy.
UPDATE: The mainspring assembly is interchangeable between the NP-22 and NP-34. They look almost exact. There is an issue though. When I swapped the NP34 mainspring assembly into the NP22 the trigger pull did not improve at all, it seemed to get worse. Alternatively, when I swapped the NP22 assembly into the NP34, the trigger pull on the NP34 seems to have improved somewhat. This suggests that the culprit of the horrid trigger pull is not the mainspring nor the mainspring assembly since the experiment suggests that the mainspring and assembly are to spec hence the interchangeability between the NP34. I think a more detailed strip of the frame is required and I suspect the culprit may be around the hammer/sear. The upshot is that a new mainspring may not be required to fix the trigger pull, on the downside the cause of the problem is yet unknown.
A .45 Norc-SIG would be nice. Sadly John says these are not in production.
I've handled the old Np-58 and they are quite nice.
Extra springs are included. One for the trigger bar and one goes into the locking block. They do nothing to improve quality of pull as I had foolishly thought.
Thanks to edyshock for pointing this out:
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4920429&postcount=4
Important Update: I swapped in the spare lock block spring (bottom one in picture) while cleaning and noticed that the lock block and takedown lever were very difficult to replace. Once I did get them replaced I noticed that the pistol would no longer lock back on an empty magazine. I switched the old spring back in, very easily might I add, to find that full functionality was restored. Perhaps the new spring is out of spec or needs breaking in to remove some of its "springiness". The metal experts can chime in on this. In any case the lock block spring replacement is suspect.
The pistol itself.
The slide is steel and the frame is aluminum.
Thanks to Rivalen for the astute observation.
http://www.canadiangunnutz.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4924397&postcount=14
The finish is ok, but nothing to write home about.
It looks rough but durable.
I'm happy with it.
GASP- serial numbers. Again. Finish is ok, but the right side of the slide looks rather busy with all the numbers and markings. At least they skipped any poetry.
Notice the machine marks. I don't remember them on the SIG that I handled.
More machine marks on the inside of the slide. I don't think they matter too much here.
The magwell. There appear to be numbers here but they are not from the serial number. Mine read 4-1390. They are covered up by the magazine baseplate when the magazine is inserted.
Yet again, the finish is ok. Sadly I marred up the trigger pivot screw trying to replace the lock block.
The trick to aligning the trigger pivot pin to reinsert the block is to use a credit card or bank card to prevent marring to the finish of the pivot pin. Live and learn.
The inside of the slide.
Inside of the slide. Nothing spectacular.
The barrel appears well built and the locking pieces look very durable. Only time will tell. There was a bit of carbon fouling in the chamber area, probably from the test fire at the factory. The rifling is crisp and pronounced.
Here is the feedramp on the barrel. The locking block also has the lower part of the ramp cut into it, I do not know if this differs from a real SIG. Please chime in folks.
I can not speak about the reliability until I do some test shots and grouping shots.
The butt end of things.
It is a magazine. There are holes that indicate how many cartridges are in the magazine, 5-10 and the sadly unused 15. I purchased three magazines and all thee fall out readily when ejected. They seem well built and are all steel construction.
The NP-22 mags will fit into an Np-34 but not vice versa.
The innards. Notice the follower block that sits on top of the inside of the baseplate to limit capacity. I had no issue stripping the magazine without that ice-pick looking thing that came in the box. Other users have indicated this is what that pick thing is used for. I chucked it.
The baseplate has the last four digits of the serial number inscribed.
Calling 2444...
The side view. I very much like the construction of these and they feel very durable.
Mr. Bunikers. He is not dinner and quite deadly with his .22. Intruders beware.
I would appreciate any comments and suggested corrections.
Stay tuned for a range report.
Things to do:
-Lights and sights.
-Holster
-Mainspring replacement.
Cheers.
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) and the NP34 are top on my list for purchases, you may just seal the deal for me. But once again decisions, decisions, back down to the whole should I buy a 9mm or a .40??? 
