Model 97 Winchester Trench Gun and M1 Rifle – both manufactured in 1943.

[Steve1987]

As usual, excellent stuff.

-Steve

 

[purple]

It's so rare that we come across a milsurp firearm that can be 100% connected to a person. This is one of those great rare cases! Nobody can say for sure what really happened and how he got it, but that's part of the mystique!

To call your collection astonishing would be an understatement. Thank you for sharing it!

I've been eagerly waiting since June for the cfc to allow the police to release a ####-and-click bren currently in their possession to wolverine... Hopefully they won't be too much longer; my goal is to reunite a 90 year old amputee veteran with the weapon that saved his life on several occasions while I still can...

I'm fortunate to have my late uncle's personal issue .38 S&W that he carried from Normandy through to the end in Germany and then mailed home in pieces. I also have another one that he "liberated", as well as the P38 that he picked up in Normandy.

 

[NAA]

I love that '42 Colt USGI 1911A1.........

NAA.

 

[Navy Gunner]

Please delete

Please delete

 

[Klunk]

the problem with dewats is any REGISTERED 12(3) will have to be welded up SOLID due to recent regs...

yet, it is possible to find older dewats that are #### n click...

yet again the 'tards in the Gov have created 2 more classes of firearms-old school dewats and new school.....making some more valuable than others

 

[drm3m]

Klunk,

Is that not exactly what happened in the U.K....old spec vs. new spec?
The respective values were certainly affected ...a welded up gun compared to a gun with a functioning action and certain moving parts.

This is why I feel that the "#### and click" guns will eventually be the future for these types of collectable historic guns....unless the laws change in this regard.
Hopefully they do.

The last thing I want to do is to deactivate my four 12(3) s (converted to semi-auto machineguns) under the current format....a collectors nightmare.

David

 

[Klunk]

Klunk,

The last thing I want to do is to deactivate my four 12(3) s (converted to semi-auto machineguns) under the current format....a collectors nightmare.

David

You dont have a choice....any gun NOW dewatted must be have the work done by a licensed gun smith. No smith will risk his license and will 'weld solid' any deactivated firearm

its complete BS and has indeed created 2 classes of what is essentialy unregistered scrap metal.....I too have a collection of 'old school' dewats

 

[Ar180shooter]

Wow, those are some beautiful collectors pieces there.

It's a shame that the regs for dewatting are essentially destroying any collectors value for newly deactivated firearms.

 

[drm3m]

Very nice stuff Klunk. Congrats!
Nice photos as well.

The subject of deactivating the live guns 12(3)s that I own has been on my mind for some time.
I suppose in a way I regret not having done it when “#### and click” deactivation was still possible.
I have decided that I will not send these guns to the welding shop.
Someone else may eventually have to do it….. but it won’t be me.

David


Shown below-three dewats and three live 12(3)s.

Barrel markings on the 12(3) Erma assembled MP40 shown above.

One dewat and one 12(3) (MP44s).... this live gun is rather nice...it would be criminal to weld it up tight.


The 12(3) live gun. (Erma assembled MP44)

The dewat "#### and click". (Steyr-Daimler-Puch assembled MP44)