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I tried the Search function to no avail !! :rolleyes:

Anyways, I know this has been discussed before but is everyone feeding there 6.5-06 ?

I was going to start with 140 gr. bullets (Sierra GK or NPT's) and H4831....maybe RL-22 . (winchester 25-06 brass necked up w/ wlr primers).

I dont' have the rifle yet but its nice to have a plan in advance. Anybody know where I can get dies off the shelf in Canada before I order from the US.

cheers,
 
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My late buddy shot one....Great round!

H-4350, H-4831, H-1000, IMR-7828, RL-19, and RL-22 for a start. :)

I believe he used Redding dies....I can't imagine him using anything else!
 
Rl-25

I found RL-25 worked best with a 140 for me.It was very sensitive to chamber heat in my 264,that's why I had some to try,but in my 6.5-06, it worked fine.So that's what I use .

The 256 Newton is a bit smaller. He went with a 130,as do most experenced 6.5-06 shooters.I have bunch of 140s,so I save the 129s for the 260.
 
Before you go to the 139 grain bullets in your 6.5-06, what is the twist rate in your barrel?
I have two 6.5-06 rifles. One has a 1-10 twist and it won't stabilise a 140 grain bullet. It will, on the other hand provide good consistent accuracy with 130 grain bullets.
The other rifle, has a 1-9 twist and will only stabilise flat base 140 grain bullets. I bought the rifle, from eagleye a few years ago. He knows what I'm saying.

I have a 6.5x55, with a 1-8 twist and it will stabilise any bullet weight consistently. The big problem is the light bullets, become explosive at higher velocities.

H1000, is a very good choice. I agree completely. I also like H4831 and RL25.
 
The latest Hornady manuals, have 6.5-06 data if I recall. The nice thing about the 6.5 bores, is they aren't fussy as to powder preferences, as long as it's on the slow side.
 
Ive got oodles of loading manuals....Im always curious to what others have had success with.


I just cant believe this hasnt' been a factory chambering / loading. (at least not since Newton if you count that.)
 
It's so close to the 270Win as to make little or no difference. The main difference, is there are better bullets available for the 6.5 diameter bore. I agree, it's a very good cartridge.
 
1 in 8

The 1 in 7.9 comes from one the first 6.5s,the Swede 6.5x55. It was used for their first loading,a long 160 or 156 RN.They then dropped down to a 139 pointed.A faster twist is needed to stablize longer bullets. This is just a WAG,but the two faster twist 6.5s I have had ran slow(high pressure). I'm thinking the 1 in 9 that Winchester arrived at for the 264 might be about right,unless you plan on shooting 160RNs.

The question of twist rates vs pressure vs velocity would be an interesting article.
 
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Agree with downwindtracker. My many 6.5/55's, all 1 in 7.9" twists, top out at 2600-2675 fps speeds. This with 140's, R22 in 23.5" military barrels. Bores slug at .265-.266", which may well contribute, along with the quick twist, to the rather slow speeds. Fast twists seem to 'hit the wall' more suddenly at a prudent max. They get a little touchy and inconsistent, pressure signs vary somewhat shot to shot (case head expansion). Temp. sensistive too. Drop a half grain and all is well pressure wise. And hopefully still within your accuracy node, as it seems most 6.5's shoot their best loaded rather warm.

The only 6.5/06 in my life, a montana rifleman 1 in 8.5" twist 24" barrel that slugs at .264" is built on a F.N. supreme action. A sub 1/2 moa shooter in its prime, somewhat less now with 1000 rounds down the pipe. This cartridge buys you a couple hundred fps over 6.5/55 at a cost of half the barrel life. Downrange performance is however impressive. IMO its a hunters cartridge.Carried a lot and shot little. Fiddling around trying to fine tune accuracy was a mistake for me. I shoot long range steel, but not for long with this one once the load developement was sorted to my unrealistic standards.

Being a wildcat, chambers vary. One must start conservatively. Not much modern data out there either. I used nosler #3 (1989) data and it proved out pretty close. Had I of used some of the older data that I found , those starting loads would have for sure stuck the bolt or worse. 51.5gr of R22 with lapua 139gr scenars 215m in necked lapua 30/06 brass is where this one found home. High 2800's. Tryed 139scenar, 140amax, 142mk with h4350, h4831, h1000, retumbo, R22, and R25. If speed is your thing then R25 and retumbo will produce. YMMV but approaching 6.5/06 max for me was somewhat touchy. 3 or 4 shots at warm normal pressure then one all flattened out with a loose primer pocket and well outside of the group. All charges were weighed on both the scale and balance beam. Seated .040" off in a long throat. Who knows?.

40 years with the 6.5's has taught that they all like their bullets to be seated nice and straight. 3 thou. or less runout measured at the ogive works well. Nice round groups result at long range and no fliers (wind effects excepted).To get there I use lee collet sizer and redding benchrest seater dies. No need to measure every round any more with this kit.

Bottom line is that 6.5mm shines because of the bullets. Loaded straight at over 2600 fps and you will be smiling.
 
Ive got oodles of loading manuals....Im always curious to what others have had success with.


I just cant believe this hasnt' been a factory chambering / loading. (at least not since Newton if you count that.)

It is a factory chambering in Europe, they just call it by it's metric name, 6.5x64. - dan
 
Yep, very close, Im going to run it head to head with my 270....might have to sell one of them :eek:

The 270 is a cartridge with decent performance.

When paired with an 8 twist the 6.5-06 provides excellent performance.
It is in a completely different class for long range work.
 
There is a good article on the 6.5-06 in Oct-Nov '08 Handloader.

I looked up my notes,I'm using 54.0 gr of RL-25 for 2883 F/S .As for velocity, it's a bit disappointing, but it is max for this rifle.It's about 100 F/S off.Others see + 3000 for a 140. The notes don't have the targets,opps,but it wouldn't be highlighted unless it was well under one MOA.

6.5mm bullets have a B.C. as much as .6.That is where the 6.5 has it over the 270.
 
There is a good article on the 6.5-06 in Oct-Nov '08 Handloader.

I looked up my notes,I'm using 54.0 gr of RL-25 for 2883 F/S .As for velocity, it's a bit disappointing, but it is max for this rifle.It's about 100 F/S off.Others see + 3000 for a 140. The notes don't have the targets,opps,but it wouldn't be highlighted unless it was well under one MOA.

6.5mm bullets have a B.C. as much as .6.That is where the 6.5 has it over the 270.

According to Hodgdon the 264Win mag will run 3000Fps at max safe pressure.
To assume the 6.5-06 can match that velocity is dangerous...Your load is realistic.
I noticed Hodgdon has reloading info BTW.
http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

Have a peek.
 
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